FEELINGS (Abstract Notions)

[shokooh Ingham]

I know kimathathanka 'turn into a buffalo', kizuzeca 'turn into a snake', kiwitko 'go mad', kiwanice 'turn into nothing' and kiwe 'turn into blood'; a very useful prefix.  You can also use ic'icag^a/mic'icag^e 'make oneself into', but I think that is more conscious, whereas the first is non-intentional perhaps.
Bruce

""Alfred W. Tüting"" <ti at fa-kuan.muc.de> wrote: > Fascinating examples from Clive.  The use of a- to mean 'more than' is an interesting one in Lakota.  It seems to be not totally productive and is a bit illusive, but one sees examples of it.  I have  a feeling that it is more frequent in Dakota, but can't think on what basis I have this feeling.  Does anyone else have this impression?
Bruce < 


It's my impression that with regard to productiveness, it's maybe comparable to the use of ki- (in the sense of "become", "turn to") e.g. kiaguyapi (to turn into bread). Does anyone happen to know of other renderings like "turn into stone" (petrify) or such??


BTW, this a- in the sense of "more than" seems to express a "general idea" found also in other languages. E.g. think of Hungarian adessive  -nál/-nél (at) also used as comparative (e.g. ennél jobb - better than this).


Alfred


""Alfred W. Tüting"" <ti at fa-kuan.muc.de> wrote:> "LochiNpi kiN he iyes^ akhiphapi kta thawat'elyapi na iyoks^ica uNpi  
> kiN he e athawat'elyapi s^ni kiN hecha."

> [=As for themselves, they preferred facing hunger,
 to living in  
> sadness (i.e. loneliness) - such were their (feelings) or 'such was  
> their situation'.]
> (lit. : they felt willing to face the prospect of  hunger, and they  
> did not feel a greater willingness to be living in desolation -  
> that's the way it was).



(Loċinpi kin he iyeṡ aḱip'a pi kta ṫawat'elya pi na
 iyokiṡica un pi kin he e
aṫawat'elya pi ṡni kin héċa.)


(...)


BTW, I like your reading of a-ṫawat'elyA <- a-waṡte (better than), it's very
convincing.


Alfred




       
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