From mawakuni-swetland2 at unlnotes.unl.edu Sat Jun 13 19:34:36 2009 From: mawakuni-swetland2 at unlnotes.unl.edu (Mark J Awakuni-Swetland) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:34:36 -0500 Subject: Fw: rankin presentation Message-ID: ----- Forwarded by Mark J Awakuni-Swetland/UNLAS/UNL/UNEBR on 06/13/09 02:33 PM ----- Emily Levine 06/13/09 10:21 AM To Mark J Awakuni-Swetland cc Subject rankin presentation Hi Mark, here's the URL of Rankin's talk to pass on to your conference goers. I really enjoyed the parts I was able to attend even if the linguistics was over my head. https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/handle/1811/28545 thanks, Emily -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mary Bryan James Gordon wrote: > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** From linguista at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 07:15:25 2009 From: linguista at gmail.com (Bryan James Gordon) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:15:25 -0500 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now with the attachment. Sorry! 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** > -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gordon 2009 sclc infostruc.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 912744 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de Wed Jun 17 10:08:51 2009 From: johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de (Prof. Dr. Johannes Helmbrecht) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:08:51 +0200 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks Bryan, Best Johannes ---------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht / Original message ---------- Datum: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:15:25 -0500 Antwort an: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU Von: Bryan James Gordon An: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU, Johannes Helmbrecht Betreff: Re: My paper from SCLC Now with the attachment. Sorry! 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -- Prof. Dr. Johannes Helmbrecht Lehrstuhl für Allgemeine und Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft Universität Regensburg Philosophische Fakultät IV Sprach- und Literaturwissenschaft Universitätsstr. 31 93053 Regensburg Deutschland Tel: ++49(0)941 943-3388 ++49(0)941 943-3387 (Sekretariat) Fax: ++49(0)941 943-2429 E-Mail: johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de Webseite: http://www-avs.uni-regensburg.de/index.htm From mary.marino at usask.ca Wed Jun 17 17:13:32 2009 From: mary.marino at usask.ca (Mary C Marino) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:13:32 -0600 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks! Mary Marino Bryan James Gordon wrote: > Now with the attachment. Sorry! > > 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon > > > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** > > > > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** From rankin at ku.edu Thu Jun 18 02:04:48 2009 From: rankin at ku.edu (Rankin, Robert L) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:04:48 -0500 Subject: rankin presentation Message-ID: Mark, I don't think my first attempt at this got sent thanks to Microsoft. I wanted to congratulate you and the UNL gang on a terrific conference. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a Siouan Conference so much. There were no bad papers, and the hospitality was outstanding. John and his students did a great job too; I hope they will all stay interested and that we'll see them all, along with everyone else, next year in Chicago. Gó?ki waxí?ha hníize té-di, úudo? mo?shní?. Bob From mary.marino at usask.ca Thu Jun 18 03:45:19 2009 From: mary.marino at usask.ca (Mary C Marino) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:45:19 -0600 Subject: rankin presentation In-Reply-To: <94AEF443BC155B408F63B70FAD80787B071D57@MAILBOX-31.home.ku.edu> Message-ID: Mark - I heartily agree with Bob's remarks; thanks for all the hard work you put into this conference. It was well worth the trip. I am glad to hear that next year's conference will be in Chicago: Billings and Lincoln and Kaw City are fine places, but it will be fun, for a change, to tell my colleagues that I am going to a place they've heard of. Best regards to you and Donna and your sons, Mary Rankin, Robert L wrote: > Mark, > > I don't think my first attempt at this got sent thanks to Microsoft. > > I wanted to congratulate you and the UNL gang on a terrific conference. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a Siouan Conference so much. There were no bad papers, and the hospitality was outstanding. > > John and his students did a great job too; I hope they will all stay interested and that we'll see them all, along with everyone else, next year in Chicago. > > Gó?ki waxí?ha hníize té-di, úudo? mo?shní?. > > Bob > From John.Koontz at Colorado.EDU Fri Jun 19 04:31:51 2009 From: John.Koontz at Colorado.EDU (Koontz John E) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:31:51 -0600 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: I have resuscitated my CU email. Next step is to process a year's worth of business ... John E. Koontz http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz From carudin1 at wsc.edu Sun Jun 21 15:05:41 2009 From: carudin1 at wsc.edu (Catherine Rudin) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:05:41 -0500 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: Hi again! I just said a reply to your other address, about music... will you be reading both of them now? Process the year's worth of business? My advice is to not bother -- just act like you joined the list today. There hasn't been all that much business that didn't relate to the conference... OK -- now for the real business: I DO want to get back to the Omaha sketch, as I hinted in Lincoln. This summer is pretty booked up and in the fall I'll be teaching too much as usual, but I CAN make time for it if I just decide it's a priority. You sounded like you might be up for getting back to it too? We should talk about it soon -- it's become downright embarrassing and depressing that it's not done after all these years; one or both of us should just sit down and finish it. I'm home for the next week; the first time since early May that I've had more than a day or two in Wayne. In between unpacking and dealing with the overgrown yard and all the accumulated mail and nonsense, I'll try to at least get out the old draft and see where we were and how much more needs to be done. (My memory is that we had at least fairly good drafts of everything except the chapter on the verb and maybe things like syntax -- it will need cutting and tightening to fit within the page limit and those one or two remaining chapters are the hardest ones, so it's not really close to done, but -- with a little concentrated work it shouldn't take long.) Some time a year or two ago I started going through it and making formatting-free, plain text versions of the chapters so they'd be easier to work with -- that's the last time I looked at it, but at that time I remember being pleasantly surprised at how much good stuff there was there. Bob's two papers on prefixes and enclitics could serve as a guide for much of the verb chapter. After this coming week, I'll be away again for another couple of weeks -- a few days back in Lincoln to work with Mark and David (grad student data-entry guy) on the Omaha dictionary database, and then up to Wisconsin again for family and dance stuff. I'll have some free time while on the road, will be in an Omaha frame of mind in Lincoln, and will have wi-fi at least in Lincoln and Madison; could do some little editing but won't have big stretches of time for concentrated work. After July 15 or so I'm back in Wayne for a solid month before fall classes start; my hope is that by July we'll have a plan of action and that month will be a time to get this thing at least mostly done. The time all too easily gets filled up with other things (writing draft #2 of comparative siouan paper, dictionary data entry, garden weeding, lying in the hammock with a cold drink...) What do you think? Catherine >>> Koontz John E 06/18/09 11:36 PM >>> I have resuscitated my CU email. Next step is to process a year's worth of business ... John E. Koontz http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz From carudin1 at wsc.edu Sun Jun 21 16:28:02 2009 From: carudin1 at wsc.edu (Catherine Rudin) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:28:02 -0500 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: Oh, geez -- you'd think I'd know by now to check the "to" line. Sorry for sending you all my note meant just for John Catherine From greer-j at MSSU.EDU Thu Jun 25 21:39:26 2009 From: greer-j at MSSU.EDU (Jill Greer) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:39:26 -0500 Subject: Whitman's Grammar of Ioway-Oto (sic!) For the comparative folks complaining about no data for Jiwere... Message-ID: Hi, All, Many of you already have a copy of William Whitman's 1947 Descriptive Grammar of Ioway-Oto from IJAL (Sans the last page of the manuscript. I can get that out later, but it refers primarily to the causative, not to wa-, so it won't matter for now. For any of you (especially the Windy City folks :) complaining about a lack of material on Chiwere subgroup for your comparative projects (on, things like, Oh,I don't know, maybe wa- :). It's brief and densely packed, but I haven't found anything I would consider "wrong" in it yet. Maybe I just don't know enough to judge. But it's better than nothing, and surely the "directional" wa- does deserve to be cast in amongst the other worms in the proverbial can... http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/1262839.pdf The conference was truly good, in all ways. Hope everyone is still inspired to keep the momentum going. Best wishes, Jill Jill Greer Assistant Professor Social Science Department MSSU Joplin, MO 64801 greer-j at mssu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mary Bryan James Gordon wrote: > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** From linguista at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 07:15:25 2009 From: linguista at gmail.com (Bryan James Gordon) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:15:25 -0500 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now with the attachment. Sorry! 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** > -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gordon 2009 sclc infostruc.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 912744 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de Wed Jun 17 10:08:51 2009 From: johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de (Prof. Dr. Johannes Helmbrecht) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:08:51 +0200 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks Bryan, Best Johannes ---------- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht / Original message ---------- Datum: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:15:25 -0500 Antwort an: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU Von: Bryan James Gordon An: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU, Johannes Helmbrecht Betreff: Re: My paper from SCLC Now with the attachment. Sorry! 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -- *********************************************************** Bryan James Gordon, MA Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology University of Arizona *********************************************************** -- Prof. Dr. Johannes Helmbrecht Lehrstuhl f?r Allgemeine und Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft Universit?t Regensburg Philosophische Fakult?t IV Sprach- und Literaturwissenschaft Universit?tsstr. 31 93053 Regensburg Deutschland Tel: ++49(0)941 943-3388 ++49(0)941 943-3387 (Sekretariat) Fax: ++49(0)941 943-2429 E-Mail: johannes.helmbrecht at sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de Webseite: http://www-avs.uni-regensburg.de/index.htm From mary.marino at usask.ca Wed Jun 17 17:13:32 2009 From: mary.marino at usask.ca (Mary C Marino) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:13:32 -0600 Subject: My paper from SCLC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks! Mary Marino Bryan James Gordon wrote: > Now with the attachment. Sorry! > > 2009/6/17 Bryan James Gordon > > > Attached please find a pdf of my presentation. > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** > > > > > -- > *********************************************************** > Bryan James Gordon, MA > Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology > University of Arizona > *********************************************************** From rankin at ku.edu Thu Jun 18 02:04:48 2009 From: rankin at ku.edu (Rankin, Robert L) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:04:48 -0500 Subject: rankin presentation Message-ID: Mark, I don't think my first attempt at this got sent thanks to Microsoft. I wanted to congratulate you and the UNL gang on a terrific conference. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a Siouan Conference so much. There were no bad papers, and the hospitality was outstanding. John and his students did a great job too; I hope they will all stay interested and that we'll see them all, along with everyone else, next year in Chicago. G??ki wax??ha hn?ize t?-di, ?udo? mo?shn??. Bob From mary.marino at usask.ca Thu Jun 18 03:45:19 2009 From: mary.marino at usask.ca (Mary C Marino) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:45:19 -0600 Subject: rankin presentation In-Reply-To: <94AEF443BC155B408F63B70FAD80787B071D57@MAILBOX-31.home.ku.edu> Message-ID: Mark - I heartily agree with Bob's remarks; thanks for all the hard work you put into this conference. It was well worth the trip. I am glad to hear that next year's conference will be in Chicago: Billings and Lincoln and Kaw City are fine places, but it will be fun, for a change, to tell my colleagues that I am going to a place they've heard of. Best regards to you and Donna and your sons, Mary Rankin, Robert L wrote: > Mark, > > I don't think my first attempt at this got sent thanks to Microsoft. > > I wanted to congratulate you and the UNL gang on a terrific conference. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a Siouan Conference so much. There were no bad papers, and the hospitality was outstanding. > > John and his students did a great job too; I hope they will all stay interested and that we'll see them all, along with everyone else, next year in Chicago. > > G??ki wax??ha hn?ize t?-di, ?udo? mo?shn??. > > Bob > From John.Koontz at Colorado.EDU Fri Jun 19 04:31:51 2009 From: John.Koontz at Colorado.EDU (Koontz John E) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:31:51 -0600 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: I have resuscitated my CU email. Next step is to process a year's worth of business ... John E. Koontz http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz From carudin1 at wsc.edu Sun Jun 21 15:05:41 2009 From: carudin1 at wsc.edu (Catherine Rudin) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:05:41 -0500 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: Hi again! I just said a reply to your other address, about music... will you be reading both of them now? Process the year's worth of business? My advice is to not bother -- just act like you joined the list today. There hasn't been all that much business that didn't relate to the conference... OK -- now for the real business: I DO want to get back to the Omaha sketch, as I hinted in Lincoln. This summer is pretty booked up and in the fall I'll be teaching too much as usual, but I CAN make time for it if I just decide it's a priority. You sounded like you might be up for getting back to it too? We should talk about it soon -- it's become downright embarrassing and depressing that it's not done after all these years; one or both of us should just sit down and finish it. I'm home for the next week; the first time since early May that I've had more than a day or two in Wayne. In between unpacking and dealing with the overgrown yard and all the accumulated mail and nonsense, I'll try to at least get out the old draft and see where we were and how much more needs to be done. (My memory is that we had at least fairly good drafts of everything except the chapter on the verb and maybe things like syntax -- it will need cutting and tightening to fit within the page limit and those one or two remaining chapters are the hardest ones, so it's not really close to done, but -- with a little concentrated work it shouldn't take long.) Some time a year or two ago I started going through it and making formatting-free, plain text versions of the chapters so they'd be easier to work with -- that's the last time I looked at it, but at that time I remember being pleasantly surprised at how much good stuff there was there. Bob's two papers on prefixes and enclitics could serve as a guide for much of the verb chapter. After this coming week, I'll be away again for another couple of weeks -- a few days back in Lincoln to work with Mark and David (grad student data-entry guy) on the Omaha dictionary database, and then up to Wisconsin again for family and dance stuff. I'll have some free time while on the road, will be in an Omaha frame of mind in Lincoln, and will have wi-fi at least in Lincoln and Madison; could do some little editing but won't have big stretches of time for concentrated work. After July 15 or so I'm back in Wayne for a solid month before fall classes start; my hope is that by July we'll have a plan of action and that month will be a time to get this thing at least mostly done. The time all too easily gets filled up with other things (writing draft #2 of comparative siouan paper, dictionary data entry, garden weeding, lying in the hammock with a cold drink...) What do you think? Catherine >>> Koontz John E 06/18/09 11:36 PM >>> I have resuscitated my CU email. Next step is to process a year's worth of business ... John E. Koontz http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz From carudin1 at wsc.edu Sun Jun 21 16:28:02 2009 From: carudin1 at wsc.edu (Catherine Rudin) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:28:02 -0500 Subject: Koontz Message-ID: Oh, geez -- you'd think I'd know by now to check the "to" line. Sorry for sending you all my note meant just for John Catherine From greer-j at MSSU.EDU Thu Jun 25 21:39:26 2009 From: greer-j at MSSU.EDU (Jill Greer) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:39:26 -0500 Subject: Whitman's Grammar of Ioway-Oto (sic!) For the comparative folks complaining about no data for Jiwere... Message-ID: Hi, All, Many of you already have a copy of William Whitman's 1947 Descriptive Grammar of Ioway-Oto from IJAL (Sans the last page of the manuscript. I can get that out later, but it refers primarily to the causative, not to wa-, so it won't matter for now. For any of you (especially the Windy City folks :) complaining about a lack of material on Chiwere subgroup for your comparative projects (on, things like, Oh,I don't know, maybe wa- :). It's brief and densely packed, but I haven't found anything I would consider "wrong" in it yet. Maybe I just don't know enough to judge. But it's better than nothing, and surely the "directional" wa- does deserve to be cast in amongst the other worms in the proverbial can... http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/1262839.pdf The conference was truly good, in all ways. Hope everyone is still inspired to keep the momentum going. Best wishes, Jill Jill Greer Assistant Professor Social Science Department MSSU Joplin, MO 64801 greer-j at mssu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: