Tutelo-Saponi Directionals

[Rankin, Robert L]

In addition to the bibliography I sent earlier, add:
 
Swanton, John R.  1943.  Siouan Tribes and the Ohio Valley. American Anthropologist (45):49-66.
 
Bob

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From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Rankin, Robert L
Sent: Sun 11/1/2009 10:25 AM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: RE: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals


The colon after a vowel means that vowel is long, i.e., the pronunciation is drawn out.  Long  vowels are typically about one and a half times as long in duration as short vowels.  All the Siouan languages except Dakota have long and short vowels.
 
The "h" after p, t, ch, or k marks aspiration.  It is like an actual H sound after the consonant.  P with the little H would be like the ph of "loophole".  KH, as in tokha, would be like "backhoe".  I normally just use the letter "h" rather than the raised h.  
 
Your parse of the words for 'west' look right to me.  I don't know the 'east' term, but you obviously have the right idea.
 
Best,
 
Bob

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From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Scott Collins
Sent: Sat 10/31/2009 9:32 PM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals


Going back to the question on the directional words in Tutelo-Saponi. I have taken the advice here and come up with the following let me know if it is correct or not.
 
the West = to:ka: mi hi:yata
 
mi = sun
to:ka: = where
hi:yata = sleep

 
There is a lowercase "h" between k and a in to:ka: but I do not have a font for that nor do I understand the ":" part of the word.
 
 
 
Also would East then be to:ka: mi kle:?
 
kle: = awake
 
 


Scott P. Collins