Walking sticks

Billy Maxwell bmaxwell at mt.net
Mon Nov 23 14:52:40 UTC 2009


http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/USInsects/
Here is a link to get a visual on your walking sticks. Which
Of the four listed are you referring to?

We were just discussing on PIStwo how Crows and a few other animals  
always point towards game. Never off topic to
understand the habits a language is used.
 From Billy's iTouch

On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:30 AM, "Kathleen Shea" <kdshea at aol.com> wrote:

> One of my Ponca consultants, who prefers to remain unnamed, tells me  
> that the word for 'stick beetle' in Ponca is /ttee etta waa'bazu/  
> (literally, '[he] points in the direction of the buffalo').
>
> Kathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ThodeCharles
> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:32 PM
> Subject: RE: a strange query -- off topic.
>
> It's also in the  Osage side page 159, left column 4th word from the  
> bottom: tse'howainge
>
> C.Thode
>
> > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:44:16 -0700
> > From: David.Rood at Colorado.EDU
> > To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > Subject: Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting!! As kids (in rural New York state) we used to ask daddy
> > longlegs (a particular kind of big spider) "Which way are the cows  
> going"
> > (without touching the spider, of course) and the spider would  
> stick out
> > one or another of its legs to answer us.
> >
> > David S. Rood
> > Dept. of Linguistics
> > Univ. of Colorado
> > 295 UCB
> > Boulder, CO 80309-0295
> > USA
> > rood at colorado.edu
> >
> &g! t; On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rory M Larson wrote:
> >
> > > Nice, David!
> > >
> > > My copy is handy, and it's actually under 'walkingstick  
> (insect)' on the
> > > English side. On the Osage side we have:
> > >
> > > ttse' ho-wa-iN-ge, walking stick (bug);
> > > ttse, buffalo; ho-wa-iN-ge, where are they.
> > > When a child catches a walking stick it squeezes
> > > it between his fingers and asks, "Where are the
> > > buffalo?" Then the little bug will point straight
> > > ahead, to the right or to the left, and thus the
> > > child gets the answer to his question.
> > >
> > > Hope this is a help to computer science.
> > >
> > > Rory
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ROOD DAVID S <David.Rood at Colorado.EDU>
> > > Sent by: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > > 11/04/2009! 10:50 AM
> > > Please respond to
> > > siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > > siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > > cc
> > >
> > > Subject
> > > Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One of my students, Chuck Thode, tells me that the word for  
> 'walking
> > > stick' in the  Osage dictionary means something like 'where did
> > > the buffalo go' (so look under the English word 'buffalo').  
> Apparently
> > > there is a description there of how the walking stick told the  
> hunters
> > > which way to go. My copy of the LaFlesche dictionary is not  
> handy at the
> > > moment, so someone else should verify this.
> > >
> > > Bob, you'll have to forward this to Sally.
> > >
> > > David S. Rood
> > > Dept. of Linguistics
> > > Uni! v. of Colorado
> > > 295 UCB
> > > Boulder, CO 80309-0295
> > > USA
> > > rood at colorado.edu
> > >
> > > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rankin, Robert L wrote:
> > >
> > >> I had this query from Sally Thomason, who works with Salish- 
> speaking
> > > people in Montana. Has anyone heard anything like her beetle  
> account
> > > from plains tribes?
> > >>
> > >> It sounds to me a bit like some of our local farmers who say  
> you can
> > > tell how cold it will be in the coming Winter by seeing how  
> thick the coat
> > > is on fuzzy caterpillars.
> > >>
> > >> Bob
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>
> > >> Here's a weird question: I've heard that some Plains Indians
> > >> consulted a beetle (or maybe a grasshopper) to decide which
> > >> direction to hunt in, by picking it up and seeing how the
> >! ; >> antennae waved. Can you shed any light on this? Have
> > >> you heard it? Did someone do this, and if so, who? And if
> > >> you haven't heard about it but think it could possibly be a
> > >> true account, can you suggest someone else I should ask?
> > >>
> > >> (I'm cc'ing Rich on this message because he claims,
> > >> rather improbably, that the answer would help him with
> > >> his research -- research which, as far as I know, is not
> > >> concerned with Plains Indians.) [Rich is in computer science.  
> Bob]
> > >>
> > >> -- Sally
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
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