School: ttappuska

[Rankin, Robert L]

Hi Wally,

This is off-list.  

Doug has only been to maybe 3 or 4 Siouan Conferences, none recently, and doesn't contribute or encourage his students to contribute, to the list.  The younger Siouanists don't know about all his work with Dakotan dialectology in the 70s.  Linda Cumberland is the only one of the Indiana group that is active in today's group.  I wouldn't bring it up at all except that after his heart surgery Doug sort of alienated a lot of his old friends.  David was the one who brought it up with me.  He and Doug had been friends since Berkeley.  David has managed to patch things up with Doug, but he (Doug) is still very unpopular with some others, notably John Boyle, whom he tried to prevent having access to Hidatsa records held at IU.  I don't fully understand it all, but I always enjoy interacting with Doug when he turns up at LSA.  I wasn't party to the discussions that led to SSILA's moving their publication from Doug's series at Nebraska to Utah, so I don't know what the reasoning behind that was.  Anyway, I wish Doug and his students were more outgoing.

I hope you and Marianne are healthy.  I'm recovering from busting the big quadriceps tendon over my left knee -- not the way I wanted to spend my Summer, but therapy is progressing nicely and I'm back on my feet now.

All the best,

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Wallace Chafe
Sent: Fri 7/23/2010 1:50 PM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Re: School: ttappuska
 
It strikes me as extraordinarily peculiar that people on this list don't 
know Doug Parks's address: parksd at indiana.edu. Doesn't anybody belong to 
SSILA? Hasn't anybody been in touch with Doug on other matters? He is 
hardly the mysterious figure these messages imply.

Wally

--On Friday, July 23, 2010 1:17 PM -0500 "Jimm G. GoodTracks" 
<jgoodtracks at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yes, it is in IOM:  wo'guNdhe "where you learn s.t.; wagu'Ndhe(mi)
> "teaches/ shows s.t. (fem).  From:  gigu'Ndhe  (point; show; indicate).
>
> The word in Pawnee is correct, but I am unable to give an anylisis.  Doug
> Parks is at Indiana University, Bloomington, IN.  Sorry, I don't have his
> em-address at the moment.  jgt
>
>
>
>
> From: Rory M Larson
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> Subject: School: ttappuska
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at the Omaha term ttappuska, presently meaning
> 'school', but apparently meaning 'schoolteacher' in the 19th century.  It
> also appears in Osage, in both the La Flesche dictionary and in Carolyn
> Quintero's recent "Osage Dictionary", where it is listed as taapo'ska.  I
> think is nicely analyzable in Dhegiha, but Carolyn's entry has the
> bracketted note:
>
>   [Borrowed from Pawnee taapuska 'school' (Douglas Parks).
>    The Pawnee word may have entered Osage at different times
>    in different forms, with or without preaspiration of the
>    stops (h)t and (h)p and with a long or short vowel aa
>    or a; it is losing or has lost the preaspiration in
>    (h)t and (h)p.]
>
> This claims that the term is actually a loan from Pawnee.  I'm wondering
> if Douglas Parks is on the list, or if anyone knows how to get in touch
> with him, or if anyone else on the list knows Pawnee well enough to
> comment?  Is the word analyzable in Pawnee, and if so, what is the
> meaning?
>
> Also, I'd like to know how widespread the term is.  Does it exist in Kaw?
> Iowa-Oto?  Ponka?  Any other language?
>
> Thanks for any advice!
>
> Rory