School: ttappuska

Rory M Larson rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu
Fri Jul 23 21:24:18 UTC 2010


Hi Jim,

We have wagoN'ze for 'teacher' in modern Omaha too, I think from the root 
term goN'ze, 'to teach'.  I'm actually looking for a word like */ taputhka 
/ though, maybe meaning 'teacher', 'teach' or 'school'.  Since you don't 
mention it, would you say that there is no such word in IOM?

Also, I wonder if you would know the word for a bird's crop in IOM?  (That 
might be a little obscure!)

Thanks!
Rory





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Yes, it is in IOM:  wo'guNdhe "where you learn s.t.; wagu'Ndhe(mi) 
"teaches/ shows s.t. (fem).  From:  gigu'Ndhe  (point; show; indicate).
 
The word in Pawnee is correct, but I am unable to give an anylisis.  Doug 
Parks is at Indiana University, Bloomington, IN.  Sorry, I don’t have his 
em-address at the moment.  jgt

From: Rory M Larson 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:37 PM
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Subject: School: ttappuska

Hi all, 

I've been looking at the Omaha term ttappuska, presently meaning 'school', 
but apparently meaning 'schoolteacher' in the 19th century.  It also 
appears in Osage, in both the La Flesche dictionary and in Carolyn 
Quintero's recent "Osage Dictionary", where it is listed as taapo'ska.  I 
think is nicely analyzable in Dhegiha, but Carolyn's entry has the 
bracketted note: 

  [Borrowed from Pawnee taapuska 'school' (Douglas Parks). 
   The Pawnee word may have entered Osage at different times 
   in different forms, with or without preaspiration of the 
   stops (h)t and (h)p and with a long or short vowel aa 
   or a; it is losing or has lost the preaspiration in 
   (h)t and (h)p.] 

This claims that the term is actually a loan from Pawnee.  I'm wondering 
if Douglas Parks is on the list, or if anyone knows how to get in touch 
with him, or if anyone else on the list knows Pawnee well enough to 
comment?  Is the word analyzable in Pawnee, and if so, what is the 
meaning? 

Also, I'd like to know how widespread the term is.  Does it exist in Kaw? 
Iowa-Oto?  Ponka?  Any other language? 

Thanks for any advice! 

Rory 

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