BL accent patterns. The real results.

[De Reuse, Willem]

Thanks very much for this, Bob.  It is clear that regarding 1dt person inflected Lakota verbs in yu- ya- etc. some restructuring went on.

It is good to notice, though, that some of the disyllabic stems stressed on the first syllable end in the ablauting -A, so according to the Dakota Stress Rule, they are stressed on a monosyllabic stem, since the Dakota Stress Rule applies, if I remember correctly, before the ablauting -A is added to a monosyllabic stem.

See for example:

mnúga Engl. to crunch, as a horse does in eating corn CLASS v. p. 340
mnux v. also cont. of mnuga E.g. mnuxmnúga CLASS v. red. of mnuga v. also mnuga v. also yamnúmnuga E.g. mnuxyéla ‘in a crunching way CLASS adv. p. 340

Buechel does not show ablauting -A consistently, but the New Lakota Dictionary does, so we have mnúgA.

Willem
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I've had a couple of requests for my data sets from the various dictionaries, so here are the BL/BN/MN sets from 4 languages.  Rory says that Omaha matches the other Dhegiha sets.  These are nothing but the pertinent entries culled from lexica by Buechel, Quintero and Rankin for the 4 languages.

As David points out, the Dakotan data show clearly how phonological restructuring takes place.

Enjoy,

Bob
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My comments on Lakota below.
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Dakota  Of approx. 71 lexemes in bl-/mn- all but 16 accent the initial syllable.  Of those 16, 6 are reduplicanda, leaving only 10 out of 71 with 2nd syllable accent.  5 are examples of incorporated mni ‘water’.  Apparently incorporanda are unaccented or, at least, accent the second syllable, as in Willem’s study. My data are from Buechel because it's the only computerized Dakota dictionary I have.  I'm sure Jan's dictionary would be an improvement.

So I stand by my original statement, and it works for the most part except for some restructuring (but not much) in Lakota.  Data provided on request.

Bob: I am confused by the above.  I know there are some nouns and stative verbs with bl- initial stem that stress the first syllable in Buechel (I count 9 in 1970 edition, the 2002 edition is less reliable on this).  I also looked at the 1st person inflected verb forms starting in blu- and bla- in the paper Buechel dictionaries (1970 and 2002 editions) and if these forms are given, they are written without any stress mark, so for the overwhelming majority of bl- forms from Buechel, one cannot tell where the bla- and blu- are stressed.  I then looked at the New Lakota Dictionary (Jan's), which has all the bla-  and blu- verb forms with stress marks, and there you will see that they are stressed on (what I consider to be) the second syllable, i.e. the syllable following bla- or blu.  I did not do a count, but at least the overwhelming majority is stressed that way.  So one has to postulate massive restructuring in Lakota diachronically, and from a synchronic point of view one has to postulate that the Dakota Stress Rule treats bluCV and blaCV as two syllables rather than as three.

Again, I don't mean to harp on this.  Your real results for Dhegiha and all other Siouan look great, I am just making sure that we understand each other regarding the Lakota real results.  Maybe we are counting blapples and bloranges!  ;)

Willem

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