Hoc=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=85k/Winnebago_?=name? "Wiscopawis"

[Sky Campbell]

I thought I’d let my program take a crack at this name and have it swap out certain characters as I understand how they “shift” (b/p to w, s to th, etc. and vice versa).  Note that I also found a bug in my program that I’ll have to fix.  I wanted to swap out the “s” for both “th” and “x” as well as keep the “s” (IE s – th, s – x, s – s) but it looks like I have to look at my algorithm because it doesn’t want to handle more than two swaps for a single character.  So for now, these results are missing the “s” character.  But they may still help.  Be warned that there is a lot of gobbledygook to wade through but that is to be expected J.  I’ve also never had an output crank out this many results before.  Hopefully at least a few of them will give you guys a lead J.

 

Here are the matches I inputted into my program (I can edit, add, or remove matches if someone thinks it will help):

 

w/p

w/w

s/th

s/x

s/s

p/w

o/u

o/o

c/k

c/g

 

Those gave me these results:

 

pithgowapith

pithgowapix

pithgowawith

pithgowawix

pithguwapith

pithguwapix

pithguwawith

pithguwawix

pithkowapith

pithkowapix

pithkowawith

pithkowawix

pithkuwapith

pithkuwapix

pithkuwawith

pithkuwawix

pixgowapith

pixgowapix

pixgowawith

pixgowawix

pixguwapith

pixguwapix

pixguwawith

pixguwawix

pixkowapith

pixkowapix

pixkowawith

pixkowawix

pixkuwapith

pixkuwapix

pixkuwawith

pixkuwawix

withgowapith

withgowapix

withgowawith

withgowawix

withguwapith

withguwapix

withguwawith

withguwawix

withkowapith

withkowapix

withkowawith

withkowawix

withkuwapith

withkuwapix

withkuwawith

withkuwawix

wixgowapith

wixgowapix

wixgowawith

wixgowawix

wixguwapith

wixguwapix

wixguwawith

wixguwawix

wixkowapith

wixkowapix

wixkowawith

wixkowawix

wixkuwapith

wixkuwapix

wixkuwawith

wixkuwawix

 

Sky

 

From: Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] On Behalf Of Mary C Marino
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:20 AM
To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu
Subject: Re: Hocąk/Winnebago name? "Wiscopawis"

 

Jimm --

I have been following these discussions with great attention, but this one has me completely at a loss -- could you help us out with this?

Best
Mary


On 19/09/2013 5:01 PM, Jimm G. GoodTracks wrote:

Hintado, Hochanga wan^shige iyanki iswanxesdun ke, iswahunge ke.  Elaine ithge eswena. 

 

 

From: Saul Schwartz <mailto:sschwart at PRINCETON.EDU>  

Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:25 PM

To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu 

Subject: Hocąk/Winnebago name? "Wiscopawis"

 

Hello, 

 

An archaeologist colleague of mine working on the cultural affiliation of Effigy Mound sites in Wisconsin asked me to see if anyone on this list could help with a name associated with a possible mid-19th century Winnebago oral tradition of mound building. The name is "Wiscopawis." Sound Hocąk? Any suggestions for a translation? More information below.

 

All best,

Saul

 

The name is in a letter by Rev. Silas Hawley that was published in a newspaper, the Dodge County [WI] Citizen, some time before 1880. The article was reprinted in the History of Dodge County, Wisconsin (1880), pp. 452-453. The full quote, from the reprint, is: 

 

"Wiscopawis, chief of the Winnebagoes, prior to the tribes being removed to their western reservation, in conversation with M. Shafer, Esq., of Beaver Dam, told him the spring was much prized by his tribe." Earlier in the article, Hawley referred to "Much-kaw, the great medicine chief of the Winnebagoes." 

 

Shafer (1820-?) was a "general repairer of jewelry" who moved to Beaver Dam in 1854. Hawley (1815-1888) is listed as having been on a committee concerned with Presbyterian "missions to the Dakotas, Ojibwas, Senecas, Tuscaroras, and Abenaquis" (The Missionary Herald, v. 51, n. 10, p. 295, 1855).

 

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