Question re: Omaha-Ponca

[Mcbride, Justin]

By the way, the Ks equivalent of this one is yiNge, which differs only in
stress from the word for 'lack, be without.' -jtm


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Rory Larson <rlarson1 at unl.edu> wrote:

>  Or another way of describing it would be “inanimate sitting”, i.e.
> things that, because of their relatively equidimensional configuration, can
> neither “stand” nor “lie”.  It doesn’t have to be roundish, as we would
> think of globular, but can probably be angular or even have pointy
> projections as well.  I think the basic idea is that, whether 3-dimensional
> or 2-dimensional, all dimensions under consideration are comparable.
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> Rory
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> *From:* Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] *On Behalf Of
> *Rory Larson
> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 3:30 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Question re: Omaha-Ponca
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> Hi Dave,
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> Generally, ðą is used for globular, inanimate things.  Body parts are
> inanimate.  Heads, eyes, eggs, balls, etc. would be classed as ðą.  It can
> also be used for areas of limited extent, e.g. a field or yard.  It seems
> to contrast with things that are standing or lying linear, or specific
> points, or unbounded extent.  Ardis can probably give you more detail.
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> Best,
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> Rory
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> *From:* Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu<SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu>]
> *On Behalf Of *David Kaufman
> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 3:21 PM
> *To:* SIOUAN at LISTSERV.UNL.EDU
> *Subject:* Question re: Omaha-Ponca
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> Hi all,
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> I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how the article ðą is actually used
> in OP.  According to the Omaha texts, it seems to be used often after body
> parts, but I notice it is also used for other non-body part nouns as well,
> which JOD sometimes glosses as 'object'.  I'm particularly curious because
> Biloxi sometimes uses the suffix -yą (which would correlate with ðą) after some
> body part terms as well. I don't see anything similar being used in Kaw or
> Osage, unless I'm missing something .
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> Thanks.
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> Dave
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>   David Kaufman
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> Linguistic Anthropology PhD candidate, University of Kansas
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> Director, Kaw Nation Language Program
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