Carominga

[Mcbride, Justin]

Howdy, Jimm,

I wonder about the division of syllables into Caro and Monga. Is it
possible that it could be Ca Romonga? I ask becasue, if it were a Kaw name,
I'd think it might have something to do with kke, 'turtle,' which I'm
pretty sure I've seen spelled as Ca in names before. I would also look at
the r as representing either Ks y or l, and -ga part at the end (if it's
not been switched, as Sky suggests, which I think is probable) as possibly
representing like the Ks syllable j^e, which seems to happen fairly
frequently in the names I've looked at. In short, I would expect something
like kke yaNmaNj^e, which doesn't ring any bells at all in Ks. Now, I don't
know much at all about IOM, lexically or phonologically--maybe this makes
even less sense in IOM--but thought I just might throw that out there as
food for thought.

All the best,
-Justin


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sky Campbell <sky at legendreaders.com> wrote:

> The "caro" portion has me thinking of a few possibilities:
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> kera (as you pointed out)
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> giro (happy)
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> The "monga" has me thinking of:
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> mange (lying down)
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> mange (chest)
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> womanke (easy) <-- perhaps unlikely
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> mąnka (medicine) <-- seems the most unlikely but I thought I'd throw it in
> there
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> Last is a "theory" that I have that perhaps somehow, some way, "monga"
> might be a form of "manyi/manye".  Considering how many examples of "ng"
> and "ny" being swapped out (sunge/sunye, -inge/-inye, etc.), I wonder if
> perhaps it might be a version of "manyi".  Especially since that word is
> used in so many names already and your friend noted that it appears in
> other names as well.  This is just speculation, of course.  Speaking of
> which, if they could provide examples of other names that use "monga", it
> might help us figure it out.
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> Sky
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> *From:* Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] *On Behalf Of
> *Jimm G. GoodTracks
> *Sent:* Friday, July 18, 2014 9:25 AM
> *To:* SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu
> *Subject:* Fw: Carominga
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> Does anyone have some thoughts to decipher the name: "Caromonga."  The
> last part appears to be "mange" (be in sitting position).  The first could
> be "kera" (cleared sky).
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> *From:* Greg Olson <caxelolson at gmail.com>
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> *Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2014 4:48 PM
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> *To:* Jimm GoodTracks <jgoodtracks at gmail.com>
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> *Subject:* Carominga
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> Jimm, while proofing my manuscript, I came across an Ioway name I had
> overlooked. Caromonga. He is mentioned insome council   meetings during the
> 1840s. I notice the end of the name- monga -appears in other names too.
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> Greg
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