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First, since I was hasty in my glossing of the words meaning 'skunk', 'raccoon', etc. this morning, and since Wally's comment ("…and related forms") is ambiguous, I give here the entire cognate set with glosses and citations to sources. The gloss for the reconstructed forms is based on Cherokee and Tuscarora sharing the same gloss; the set as a whole was glossed 'skunk' in Mithun 1984; however, Mohawk, Oneida and Wyandot (?) may have preserved the original meaning.<BR>
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PI *t'i:?r 'skunk' (Rudes1995:53)<BR>
Ch ti:li 'skunk' (King 1978), di?li 'skunk' (Holmes and Smith 1977:257)<BR>
PNI *t'i:?roN 'skunk'<BR>
T n'e?reN? 'skunk' (Rudes 1999:347)<BR>
OH tiron ' a kind of leopard or wild cat' (Sagard, cited in Tooker 1991:158)<BR>
W at'i:roN ('raccoon' ?) (I could not locate this word in Barbeau's material at<BR>
the moment, but the words for wildcat and skunk are different) <BR>
Oe vtil'uN 'raccoon' (Michelson 2002:351)<BR>
M at`i:uN 'raccoon' (Michelson 1973:33)<BR>
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Second, contrary to the proposal made in Wright 1974, Iroquoian *k'eNhreks cannot come from a construction meaning 'long tail'. The Mohawk, Oneida, Old Tuscarora, and Tuscarora words show that the Proto-Northern Iroquoian word was *k'eNhreks with final *-eks, not *-es. The final -es in the Seneca and Onondaga forms, and the final -i$ of Wyandot result from regular processes of cluster reduction. The Proto-Iroquoian form may or may not have ended with *-ks; too little is known about the relationship of final clusters between Northern Iroquoian and Cherokee.<BR>
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The PNI root for 'be long' is *-e:ts-/-i:ts-/-oN:ts-, not **-e:s. It appears in Tuscarora as -e:0, not **-e:s. Since the verb always consists of a vowel followed by a fricative, it cannot be part of the ending of *k'eNhreks. Furthermore, one cannot reconstruct a root **-ihrek- or *-ihre- 'tail' for Proto-Iroquoian or Proto-Northern Iroquoian. The roots in the various languages are: T -(i)?rhweN0- (Rudes 1999:271), Se -ihkaR- (Chafe 1967:#756), C -?nheNhts-/-?nhweNhts-, Oo -iteN?R- (Woodbury 2003:1386), Oe -tahs-/-taks- (Michelson 2002:428), M -itahs- (Michelson 1973:62), Huron -itah$- (Fraser 1920:455). The Tuscarora and Cayuga words point to a root *-?rhweNts-; the Mohawk, Oneida, and Huron words point to a root *-itahs-.<BR>
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There are additional problems with the proposed derivation of the name Erie from *k'eNhreks that I will leave for another time; in any event, looking at Roy's analysis 31 years after he presented it, it does not look so good.<BR>
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As it stands, PI *k'eNhre(ks) looks like an unanalyzable form.<BR>
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PI *k'VNhre(ks)<BR>
Ch gvhe 'bobcat' (Feeling 1975:26)<BR>
PNI *k'eNhreks<BR>
T k'eNhreks 'mountain lion' (Rudes 1999:252)<BR>
OT caunerex 'wildcat-skin' (Lawson 1709)<BR>
W yeNhr'i$ 'lion' (Barbeau 1960:118)<BR>
S heN:es 'panther, tiger, leopard' (Chafe 1967:#562)<BR>
OOo guenhrach 'tigre' (Shea 1860:98)<BR>
Oo k'eNhes 'wildcat' (Mithun 1984:265)<BR>
Oe k'vleks 'lion' (Michelson 2002:477)<BR>
M k`v:reks 'wildcat' (Mithun 1984:265)<BR>
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