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At 20:06 07.01.04 +0100, Alfred W. Tüting wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>On the other hand, your point seems
to be supported by the new orthographic rules cf. "Rad fahren",
"Auto fahren" (which might express a moreorless subconscious
understanding among great parts of the speakers of these particles
denoting a direct object).</blockquote><br>
Well, how the orthography reform came into being was a very dubious
process which had a lot to do with politics, but less so with linguistic
insights, not to speak of a concern for folk linguistics. Ironically,
these rules have been criticized exactly because they completely ignore
that German does have incorporation.<br><br>
Btw, I find the patient interpretation (as in <i>biertrinken</i> or
<i>spaghettiessen</i>) of <i>radfahren</i> as "ein Rad fahren"
(analogous to "ride a bike") a bit odd. If I want to specify,
the outcome would probably more of be an instrumental <i>Ich fahre mit
meines Bruders Rad</i> than "Ich fahre meines Bruders Rad".
Maybe <i>autofahren</i> would feel a bit different (so I can say <i>Ich
fahre einen Mercedes</i>) because somehow it involves more agentivity
being in control of all that technical stuff, rules to obey, keeping an
eye on the traffic, etc. etc. Likewise, a specification of
<i>Hausschlachtung</i> probably would be a location like <i>Sie
schlachten im Hause</i>. Otherwise, I've been wondering whether it was OK
to say <i>Wir hausschlachten morgen</i> without tmesis -? (But there also
seems to be some variation involved like e.g. <i>anerkennen</i> occurs
with or without tmesis).<br><br>
Best,<br><br>
Heike </body>
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