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<DIV><SPAN class=162330117-03022005><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Well, I think the
generalization is that accented schwa would generally come from nasal A.
That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions though. No telling just what
Dorsey heard. Did Haas and Swadesh record any accented
schwas? Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-siouan@lists.colorado.edu [mailto:owner-siouan@lists.colorado.edu] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>David Kaufman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:58
PM<BR><B>To:</B> siouan@lists.colorado.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Dorsey u
circumflex in Biloxi<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Bob,</DIV>
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<DIV>I guess a lot of my confusion is just from a lack of overall Siouan
knowledge at this point, but just to make sure I've got this straight: you're
saying that a stressed schwa can only come about from a previously nasalized
stressed A. And I suppose there's no reason to suspect that the
underlying Siouan sa:pe or sepi (a or e) would have become nasalized in
Biloxi, then denasalized again to a stressed schwa. Interesting.
What a puzzle!</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for the comments on the ddh as well. Sounds like /d/ is
appropriate here.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"R. Rankin" <rankin@ku.edu></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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only thing I can add to what I said before is that, <BR>in Ofo, all the
instances of stressed schwa that I can <BR>locate are reflexes of
denasalized /aN/. Schwa can <BR>come from both nasal and oral /a/
unaccented, but AFAIK <BR>only from stressed nasal A. (The way I know it's a
<BR>denasalized aN is by comparing it with cognates in <BR>Biloxi, Tutelo or
some more distant Siouan language <BR>with a cognate lexeme).<BR><BR>The
term for 'black' can come from either of two <BR>different etyma. *(i)sa:pe
or *(i)sepi. I would think <BR>the former would underlie the Biloxi word,
but can't <BR>say for sure.<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR>From: "David Kaufman" <DVKLINGUIST2003@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: "Siouan List"
<SIOUAN@LISTS.COLORADO.EDU><BR>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:29
PM<BR>Subject: Dorsey u circumflex in Biloxi<BR><BR><BR>> Hi
all,<BR>><BR>>! Bob, John K, and I have been having some discussion
<BR>> re: Biloxi pronunciation and Dorsey's and Swanton's <BR>>
diacritic marks. One of these involves their use of <BR>> u-circumflex,
which Dorsey and Swanton describe as "u <BR>> in but," which sounds like
the schwa to me. I'm <BR>> particularly wondering about its use in the
word <BR>> su(circumflex)pi, meaning "black," which according to <BR>>
this, should be pronounced something like "suppy". <BR>> This would mean,
I think, that perhaps in Biloxi a <BR>> schwa could be stressed. I think
Bob mentions Ofo <BR>> having a similar stressed schwa sound. Do any
other <BR>> Siouan languages have this schwa sound in stressed <BR>>
syllables?<BR>><BR>> Dave<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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