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class=367420620-24062006> Also in Japanese 'nomimasu' is used
for both drink and smoke.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=367420620-24062006> Alan K</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>It's around elsewhere. The verb 'to drink' is used for smoking
tobacco in several Eastern Algonquian languages. For example, in
Massachusett-Narragansett, the word for 'tobacco' literally means 'what one
drinks'.<BR><BR>Dave Costa<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2><I>> there's a root iN 'to suck, to smoke',
often used with tobacco-forms <BR></I><BR> <BR>Well, whaddya know?
I came across Biloxi "yaniksoni iNni," (smoke a pipe) where iNni looks
the same as the verb "to drink." I was wondering why they would
"drink" a tobacco pipe, but now it seems this is a different verb root
altogether? (Although I suppose some relation could be made between
sucking and drinking?)<BR> <BR>Dave<BR></FONT><FONT
size=1><BR><BR><I>Koontz John E <John.Koontz@colorado.edu></I>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=1>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, REGINA PUSTET wrote:<BR>>
This m-/n-class is getting more and more exciting. I'm wondering
how<BR>> this pattern arose and if it is old or more recent. Do other
Siouan<BR>> languages have similar patterns? I think I heard that there
is a<BR>> connection with the stative paradigm ma-/ni-. How robust is
this<BR>> hypothesis? Once we know more about the history of the class,
we might<BR>> know more about its degree of
(ir)regularity.<BR><BR>These m/n/0 inflected forms have been discussed
extensively on the list<BR>(see the recent discussion of 'wound'). They
are fairly well distributed<BR>and the stems subject to the pattern are
generally the same small set.<BR>Hence the delightfulness of 'wound'
participating in it in Winnebago.<BR><BR>The 'tobacco' and 'pipe' sets are
full of them, and these sets are<BR>discussed in the CSD in copious
detail, because 'tobacco' and<BR>'kinnikinnick' forms are so clearly
loanwords in Siouan. The paradigm is<BR>somewhat irregular in its
developments, even without the oddities<BR>in 'c^haNnuNpa.<BR><BR>Dhegiha
has m/z^/0. I explain that to my satisfaction in the
'wound'<BR>discussion. I think the Dakota second persons are visiting from
the<BR>nasalized r-stems.<BR><BR>These m/n/0 forms are not statives,
though the paradigm is frequently<BR>misunderstood in this light in
Dakotan work. I won't say we know "all"<BR>about the class, but we know a
great deal, and spend most of our time now<BR>arguing small details, cf.
the 'wound' discussion.<BR><BR>In c^haNn=uNpa the extra -u- may have to do
with an extra -hu- (perhaps<BR>'stem'?) in the first and second person,
i.e., c^haN=hu=uNpa.<BR><BR>Consider the Riggs form c^aNduhupa (h very
very carefully checked), which<BR>seems to be c^haNd=uhupa. Unfortunately,
it doesn't seem to be inflected.<BR>I suspect it is something like
c^haNd=(h?)u=hupa. Maybe the hupa and uNpa<BR>are not unconnected? I'm
remebering some odd correspondences like this<BR>from somewhere else -
forms having to do with cradle boards?<BR><BR>To complicate things,
there's a root iN 'to suck, to smoke', often used<BR>with tobacco-forms
and in things like aziN. The latter is inflected<BR>a-wa-ziN, but it may
be *az=miN, etc., historically.<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
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