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<p><tt>John wrote:</tt><br>
<tt>> But the</tt><br>
<tt>> "voiced stop" in question may well have some prenasalization, and that's<br>
> what I was referring to. English orthography has no way to represent<br>
> this, of course. My main point was that my digraphs mb, nd, etc., are<br>
> not intended to imply a fully syllabic nasal, just a prenasalized one.<br>
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<tt>That makes sense. I think using mb, nd, etc. with the caveat that the prenasalization is short and non-syllabic is quite clear. Of course, we'd still have the problem of these same sounds arising epenthetically in interior positions wherever a stop is preceded by a nasal vowel.</tt><br>
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<tt>If English orthography is a problem, we could represent these stops more precisely as:</tt><br>
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<tt>Nasal: N</tt><br>
<tt>Oral: PPPP*aaaaa</tt><br>
<tt>Laryngeal: V VVVVVV</tt><br>
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<tt>for /mba/, and</tt><br>
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<tt>Nasal: N</tt><br>
<tt>Oral: TTTT*aaaaa</tt><br>
<tt>Laryngeal: V VVVVVV</tt><br>
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<tt>for /nda/.</tt><br>
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<tt>(Nasal track: N - nasalization;</tt><br>
<tt> Oral track: P - full labial closure; T - full alveolar closure; * - release click; a - the vowel;</tt><br>
<tt> Laryngeal track: V - voicing.)</tt><br>
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<tt>These would be in contrast to my idea of nasally released stops:</tt><br>
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<tt>Nasal: *NN</tt><br>
<tt>Oral: PPPPPaaaaa</tt><br>
<tt>Laryngeal: VVVV</tt><br>
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<tt>for /pm^a/, and</tt><br>
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<tt>Nasal: *NN</tt><br>
<tt>Oral: TTTTTaaaaa</tt><br>
<tt>Laryngeal: VVVV</tt><br>
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<tt>for /tn^a/.</tt><br>
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<tt>Rory</tt><br>
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