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<DIV><FONT size=2>For some reason this got sent to Carolyn alone instead of to
the whole list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Kathy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=kdshea@ku.edu href="mailto:kdshea@ku.edu">Kathleen Shea</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cqcqcq1@earthlink.net
href="mailto:cqcqcq1@earthlink.net">cqcqcq1@earthlink.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 15, 2007 8:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Biloxi ball game</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The name for shinny (game) in Ponca is ttabe'gasi (' is
accents the preceding syllable here), rendered "hitting that ball" by my
consultant: ttabe' 'ball,' gasi 'to hit, hitting.' James Howard
in _The Ponca Tribe_ (p. 126) describes the ball and how it's made--out of
deerskin and stuffed with horsehair, with certain traditional markings on
it. I've never seen one up close, even though I've watched games.
It's about the size of a football, but more spherical.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Kathy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cqcqcq1@earthlink.net href="mailto:cqcqcq1@earthlink.net">Carolyn
Quintero</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=siouan@lists.colorado.edu
href="mailto:siouan@lists.colorado.edu">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 15, 2007 12:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Biloxi ball game</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 27pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 6.0pt"><B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">From
the last Osage speaker that I consulted with:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 27pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 6.0pt"><B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">ohkíce</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">N</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'; FONT-VARIANT: small-caps"> <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">1 </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">goal,
2 the curved stick used to play kaçíni ‘shinny’</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">
(03/23/95/FH/pc) . This stick is for hitting the ball made out of
buckskin in the game of shinny which was declining in popularity in the early
20th century, circa 1916. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 27pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 6.0pt"><B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">
</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
lang=ES
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">La
Flesche p. 171:<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"> ohkíce</SPAN></I>
<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">LF orig. </SPAN></I></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'"><<I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">u-Ði´-dse></SPAN></I></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'"> a
goal, the goals in the game of shinny <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 27pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 6.0pt"><B><FONT
face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">kaçíni
</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'; FONT-VARIANT: small-caps">N
</SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face="Ss Do SILDoulos Q" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Ss Do SILDoulos Q'">shinny,
a team ball game played with a buckskin ball and sticks on a field with goals
at opposite ends<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(kas^i'ni)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><B><I><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=maroon
size=2><SPAN lang=ES
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Carolyn
Quintero</SPAN></FONT></I></B></EM><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
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</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kathleen Shea<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, <st1:date w:st="on"
Year="2007" Day="14" Month="1" ls="trans">January 14, 2007</st1:date>
<st1:time w:st="on" Minute="54" Hour="23">11:54 PM</st1:time><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Biloxi</st1:place></st1:City> ball
game</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Poncas in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State> play shinny on four Sundays in
April, an old tradition. It's kind of like field hockey, with
curved sticks and two teams with goals at opposite ends of the
field. The ball is special and kept by the Martin Blueback family, the
head of which officiates at the games. Most of the players (all men, but
of all ages) make their own sticks. There are rules, but it can be a
very rough game. Uncle Parrish (my consultant) told me that at one time
(within his memory) the Gives Water family held a shinny game every year
that could be very rough, with the brothers-in-law playing against the
sisters-in-law, but that's the only instance I've heard of women
playing.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kathy</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black">
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=rankin@ku.edu href="mailto:rankin@ku.edu">Rankin, Robert L</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=siouan@lists.colorado.edu
href="mailto:siouan@lists.colorado.edu">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday,
<st1:date w:st="on" Year="2007" Day="14" Month="1" ls="trans">January 14,
2007</st1:date> <st1:time w:st="on" Minute="01" Hour="17">5:01
PM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE:
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Biloxi</st1:place></st1:City> ball
game<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV id=idOWAReplyText21264>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mrs. Rowe talked
about the Kaws playing "shinny". I think Justin mentioned that the
Kaws and Osages had recently competed. Maybe he can fill you
in.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:owner-siouan@lists.colorado.edu">owner-siouan@lists.colorado.edu</A>
on behalf of David Kaufman<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sun <st1:date w:st="on"
Year="2007" Day="14" Month="1" ls="trans">1/14/2007</st1:date> <st1:time
w:st="on" Minute="05" Hour="15">3:05 PM</st1:time><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Siouan List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Biloxi</st1:place></st1:City> ball
game</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi all, and Happy New
Year.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Since there are terms in the <st1:City
w:st="on">Biloxi</st1:City> dictionary for a ball and ball club, I'm
wondering if they played the Choctaw/Cherokee game Stickball, apparently the
precursor of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">La
Crosse</st1:place></st1:City>. I'm basing this on cultural contact,
such as the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Biloxi</st1:place></st1:City> borrowing the idea of the blowgun
from the Choctaw. Or, was there some type of ball game played among
other Siouan tribes? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Maya, of course, had their own type of ball
game, which apparently usually ended in the sacrificing (beheading) of one
or the other team. I haven't acquainted myself with all its rules
although they apparently couldn't use their arms or legs in touching the
ball and they apparently had some type of hoop they could put the ball
through for extra points (a la basketball). I don't think the Mayan
ball game had a North American counterpart though, or did
it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=1>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Don't get soaked. Take a<A
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quick peak at the forecast </A><BR>with the<A
href="http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail&#news">Yahoo!
Search weather
shortcut.</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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