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<p><tt>I'm tempted toward Ponca too. I agree with Justin that "re sha" might involve dhe'ze, 'tongue'. But I would guess that "Box ka" would be Wa'x^e akHa', with the initial w being heard as b, as in the wuhu' vs. bug^u' alternation. The final part would probably be another akHa':</tt><br>
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<tt> Box ka re sha hash ta ka</tt><br>
<tt> Wa'x^e akHa' dhe'ze (i)(a)hasht()(a) akHa'</tt><br>
<tt> The whiteman tongue ('one', 'honest' ?) the</tt><br>
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<tt>This would leave us with the -hasht- part still unresolved, and lacking anything about curly hair.</tt><br>
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<tt>Justin, what's the word for 'whiteman' in Kaw?</tt><br>
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<font face="Arial">I can vaguely imagine the "Box ka re sha" part being ppah(i) ska dheze, 'white hair, tongue...,' and can even imagine "hash ta ka" containing the word ha, 'skin,' possibly in reference to skin color. I just can't place the remaining shtege/shteke/xtege/xteke part, and don't see anything like unto a Kaw word for 'curly.' But that CteCe bit does look kinda Siouan, no?</font><br>
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I received this inquiry from John Carter at the Nebraska State Historical Society. Any speculations on this name?<font size="4"> </font><br>
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I am working on some stuff on Julius Meyer, the German Jew in Omaha who claimed to speak six languages and opened the Indian goods store on Farnam Street. </font>
<p><font face="Arial">He claimed to have been given and Indian name, which he spelled Box ka re sha hash ta ka, which he translated as “Curly haired white man with one tongue.” I have two accounts, one that he got it from the Pawnee and one that he got if from the Ponca. I asked James Riding In if that name made sense to him: he thought it more likely that it was “Curly haired white dude who that a buffalo robe was worth a carton of Marlboros.” It does look like one of those Pawnee jawbreakers but I thought I would just shoot it across your bow for an opinion. </font><font size="4"> </font>
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<p><font face="Arial">Thanks, John</font><font size="4"> </font>
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