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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=ryan@redhandmedia.com href="mailto:ryan@redhandmedia.com">Ryan Red
Corn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=goodtracks@peoplepc.com
href="mailto:goodtracks@peoplepc.com">Jimm GoodTracks</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:36 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Osage name</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>La Fleshe's dictionary lists
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<DIV>"O Tha ha mon in" as a personal name "The follower"<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>i recognize those pictures i have seen them before and i have heard the
last name Lohah ..but i dont know if there are any still around..</DIV>
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<DIV>as for the name there was a man named Non.pah.wa.la which i think
translates to causes fear or in pursuit of fear causing something along those
lines but don't quote me . There is also an Osage family named Waller. Both are
from Hominy. </DIV>
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<DIV>o.thon the best i can tell means something sought out, discover, find in
something thats not plainly seen or for something to that effect</DIV>
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<DIV>dont quote me on this its all speculation at best for me<BR>
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<DIV>On Sep 5, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Jimm GoodTracks wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 10px; COLOR: rgb(128,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I thought
that I 'd run this by you. I don't recall any families by the the name
of Lohah. Have they died out?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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September 05, 2007 9:02 AM</SPAN></DIV>
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name</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN class=resulttitle><A
href="http://preview.artstor.org.ezproxy1.lib.ou.edu/SRU/validator.htm?id=%2FzJDciJIKTMxKS8wdTs%3D&source=swr&sourceid=I10678"
target=jstor/artstor/image></A>If you check on the Smithsonian website (<A
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you will find at least seven (7) photographs of this individual. Smithsonian
has it listed as O-tho'-wa-the, or "Well to Follow".<BR><BR>Also, if I am not
mistaken the family has abbreviated the name and now goes by
"Lohah".<BR><BR>Hope this helps.<BR><BR>Tom Leonard<BR></SPAN>
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<BR>Justin McBride wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:001901c7eef9$987cc690$1f21a8c0@LANGDIRECTOR
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style="FONT: 13px arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,221); font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 10px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,221); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm not
near my Osage names book right now (Louis Burns's "Osage Indian Bands
and Clans"), but I can tell you from having researched that book fairly
extensively that -walla is a causative form, i.e., -wağe, where ğe is the
causative and wa- is doing whatever wa- does (valence reduction). I've
noticed the same phenomenon in old Kaw census data, where the
name noNppe-waye ('inspires fear') is written in Agent-ese as
No-pah-walla. Not so sure what olohah would be, though.
Oloha/e? Aloha/e? And maybe the l is kl, maybe the h is x... It
could be any number of things, I suppose.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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name</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)">I'm looking for a translation to the name of
an Osage man from Pawhuska, OK who lived in the late
1800s.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)">The name is Olohawalla. Perhaps seperated as
O-Lohah-Walla.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,221)">Could anyone help with a possible
translation?</SPAN></DIV><A
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