My impression with the -ichi- versus -kichi- is that when reciprocal the ichi- occurs with inanimates and that the kichi- usually with animates. Is that the case with your examples Jan? This looks a little bit as though we have a verb class division rather as in Cree and perhaps other Algonquian languages, where verb types, but not necessarily stems, are specialized for animate or inanimate subject (maybe agent). This would mean that basically ichi- is inanimate reciprocal as in ichihkoyaka 'be linked to each other' ichipawega 'cross over each other', ichicawinga 'go back on the previous one (of paths)' , but if you have an animate agent, the reciprocity is born by the objects (patients?) as in ichiwanyanka 'compare, see one in relation to another', ichipasisa 'pin one to the other' etc. Similarly icihipasisa could mean 'be pinned to each other' if the subject was inanimate.<br>Bruce<br><br>Bruce<br><br><b><i>Jan Ullrich
<jfu@centrum.cz></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><title>Zpráva</title> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name="GENERATOR"> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;"> <div></div> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="cs"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="312250722-17122007">(quoating Regina)</span></font></div> <div><font color="#0000ff">>> </font>iyeciNkyaNke ki ichi-yaphapi<span style=""> </span>'the cars bumped into each other, in an accident'<span class="562121216-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"> </font></span></div> <div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span class="562121216-17122007">>>
</span></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">a-kichi-phapi<span style=""> </span>'they hit each other'<span class="562121216-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"> </font></span></font></div> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="562121216-17122007"></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span class="562121216-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">>I would argue that these don't represent a minimal pair. ichi-yaphapi comes from ichi + >iyapha whicle akichiphapi originates in aphA and kichi-.</font></span></font></div> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div>That's what I was trying to say, if you agree that kichi- is the reciprocal marker here.<span class="312250722-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"> </font></span></div>
<div><span class="312250722-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span class="312250722-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I am not sure I follow, Can you explain?</font></span></div> <div><span class="312250722-17122007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span class="312250722-17122007">Jan</span><span class="312250722-17122007"></span></font></font></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><br><p>
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