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<br><div><div>On 07/01/2008, at 4:55 PM, Clive Bloomfield wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Waniyetu iwoblu thanka, na thate thanka, nainsh oyate thawicoh^'anpi kin , hena ecela un hecheca shni. Tkha taku oyas'in un hecheca. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Mniwanca khowakatan okichize thanka k'un hehan lila wichoshkinciye, pte waniyanpi wichayuhapi kin thalo yutapi kta cha un wiyophewicakiya iyowinwichakhiyapi na iyowichapashtakapi.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Tanyan mazaska iyuwinpi, tkha mazaska kin wiyopheya glusotapi na ptegleshka optaye thanka ota k'un conala oglaptapi.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">[=It had not been only the blizzard, the tornadoes, the customs of the people. It had been everything. </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">In the boom days during the world war they had been encouraged to sell their cattle for beef.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; ">It had brought in money, but the money had been spent and the herds depleted.]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Ho he iyohakap taku oyas'in khul iyaye k'un he e, na omakha puze k'un he e, na thate s'a k'un hena hiyawichagle kin hechun.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Ptegleshka optaye tonakel owichaglaptapi k'un hena hehanl t'api.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">Wana lila waniyetu ota thate s'a kin he oblaye makhoche thowashte tka k'un ohiniyan thate, chankhe makhoche kin akanl ooshkinciye washte tkha k'un he ataya thate kin ikaphan ih^peye.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">[=Then had come the Depression and the drought and the winds.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">What had remained of the herds had died.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Georgia" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Georgia">For years now the winds had blown over the plains, beating to dust the life of the plains.]</font></div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>Both above quotations from Lakhota tr. by Emil AFRAID-OF -HAWK of "Brave Against the Enemy", Ann NOLAN CLARK (Haskell Institute Printing Dept., Lawrence, Kansas, Jan 1944) - Page 21.<blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1px; font-size: 13px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></font></span></div></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1px; font-size: 13px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">More than a couple of handy 'new' (well, new-ish, given it was 1944) vocabulary items there, wouldn't you say folks?</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>1) : Mniwa'nca khoa'kataN Oki'chize Tha'Nka K'uN =The Great War/The World War (lit. 'the great war across/beyond the ocean").</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>2) : Ta'ku oya's'iN Khul Iya'ye K'uN = The Great Depression/the Slump/World Recession (lit. "the (time in the past when/the fact that) everything went down/took a nose-dive").</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>3) : li'la wicho'shkinciye = the boom days (in this case, of course, the Lakhota cattle boom during WWI, and during the early 20s.)</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>4) : obla'ye makho'che tho'washte tkha k'uN (here, perhaps)= the former/erstwhile bountifulness (lit. 'its goodness') of the plains country/prairies.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>5) : makho'che kin aka'Nl oo'shkinciye washte' tkha k'uN (perhaps, in context) = the former days of the 'goodlife'/prosperity on the land/the man on the land's salad days, his heyday.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Fascinatingly, E AOH uses "wichasha ikceka" (p.51) for "Frenchman" (France or Canada), and "UNciyapi Thamakhoche ekta washicu ikceka" (p.49) for "French-Canadian".</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Could this be another clue that he really did belong to a much earlier generation, even in the 40s?<br><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Clive.</div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br></font><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Georgia; min-height: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="Georgia" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div> </blockquote></div><br></body></html>