<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 17px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b>> Atkuku kin huinat'age kin </b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><i><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">otokhetutan'inshniyan</font></b></i></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b> </b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000"><b>kunsyakel</b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b> namahehe iyeya yanke he <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">shunkthahu</font></b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF"> wash'aka</font></b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 17px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">> k'inkhiyapi</font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b> iyechelya hugmiyanyan</b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b> un kah^apapi kin</b></font></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF00FF"><b> yutiktitan he.</b></font></font></div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#0a00dd" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(10, 0, 221); "> </font></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0A00DD">> Nolan Clark : </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0A00DD"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">> "His father stamped with doubtful but determined tread on the brake pedal and pulled on the wheel as if he were reining a stubborn</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">> horse."</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0A00DD">(...)</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0A00DD"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0A00DD"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div></span><div><div>Am 05.02.2008 um 18:55 schrieb Rory M Larson:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><tt><font size="2">> </font></tt><font size="3">E.g. '</font><font size="3" color="red">kunsyakel</font><font size="3">' : I'm not sure exactly <b><i>why</i></b> the father would be 'pretending/simulating' anything, at this point?! </font> <br><font size="3">Unless 'kunsyakel' here has a weakened sense, meaning not much more than : "apparently/seemingly/to outward appearances"? </font> <br><font size="3">But of course for that idea we have s'elecheca/s'ele/s'e/sekse.</font> <br> <br> <br><tt><font size="2">I'm guessing the "seemingly" sense is approximately correct here, which would mean that kunsyakel doesn't necessarily imply that the pretense is false. Perhaps kunsyakel suggests an active/volitional role in the appearance that is lacking in the s'elecheca/s'ele/s'e/sekse set, which might be too weak and passive for the author's intentions. While the latter set might give: "The father seemed totally bewildered...", using kunsyakel the result might be: "The father was actively emitting signals of total bewilderment...", surely a much more powerful and humorous way of expressing the situation.</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size="2">Sounds like you have found a wonderful resource. Thanks for sharing!</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size="2">Rory</font></tt> <br></blockquote><br><br></div><div>otoḱetu-tan'in-ṡni-yan - lit. maybe about: "things appearing as not going"-ADV (i.e. the brakes) kunsyakel namahehe - pretendingly treading-in-again and again...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>1) The brakes are actually (still) working, albeit quite badly.</div><div>2) atkuku is aware of this, yet</div><div>3) "kunsyakel" acts as if they actually wouldn't, by "namahehe iyeya" again and again treading into them with a fast foot action (?) </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I'm not so sure about that na-mahe-he iyeya: maybe its reduplicated to denote repeated action. I for one, reading this word am having a pretty nice "picture" in front of my eyes ;-) (like: In gespielter Verzweiflung or noch(!) nicht ganz echter Verzeiflung -> doubtful but determined).</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Alfred</div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Ṫaigmuakiṫo (AWT)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Laḱota iyapi wóuŋspeḱiye</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><a href="http://www.fa-kuan.de/LAKSTRUCT.HTML">http://www.fa-kuan.de/LAKSTRUCT.HTML</a></font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></body></html>