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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>REGINA PUSTET<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, <st1:date
Year="2007" Day="20" Month="12" ls="trans" w:st="on">December 20, 2007</st1:date>
<st1:time Minute="14" Hour="9" w:st="on">9:14 AM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">siouan@lists.colorado.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: another Siouan
question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The animacy issue can be resolved if we assume, as I have suggsted a
few messages ago, that kichi- is the "real" reciprocal and ichi- is
simply a prefix that indicates, loosely speaking, contact etc. I wasn't even
sure that ichi- is a person marker (in the sense that it occupies the slots for
person marking in the verb) when I looked at my own data, and now that I've
seen Jan's last example, I'm even less sure. kichi-, on the oher hand, is
a person marker, and it also inflects for person (yechi- second person,
uNkichi- first person). ichi- does not inflect for person, as far as I know. As
a genuine reciprocal marker, kichi- can be expected primarily with animates
because animates are the entities in the universe that usually 'do' things to
each other, while inanimates are normalyy inert. So this might explain strong
statistical correlations of animates with kichi- in texts and other corpora.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>shokooh Ingham
<shokoohbanou@yahoo.co.uk></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My impression with the -ichi- versus -kichi- is that when reciprocal
the ichi- occurs with inanimates and that the kichi- usually with
animates. Is that the case with your examples Jan? This looks a
little bit as though we have a verb class division rather as in Cree and
perhaps other Algonquian languages, where verb types, but not necessarily
stems, are specialized for animate or inanimate subject (maybe agent).
This would mean that basically ichi- is inanimate reciprocal as in ichihkoyaka
'be linked to each other' ichipawega 'cross over each other', ichicawinga 'go
back on the previous one (of paths)' , but if you have an animate agent, the
reciprocity is born by the objects (patients?) as in ichiwanyanka 'compare, see
one in relation to another', ichipasisa 'pin one to the other' etc.
Similarly icihipasisa could mean 'be pinned to each other' if the subject was
inanimate.<br>
Bruce<br>
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Bruce<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jan Ullrich
<jfu@centrum.cz></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>>> </span></font>iyeciNkyaNke
ki ichi-yaphapi 'the cars bumped into each other, in an accident'<font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>>> </span></font><font face="Times
New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times\000D\000A New Roman"'>a-kichi-phapi 'they hit
each other'</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>>I would argue that these don't
represent a minimal pair. ichi-yaphapi comes from ichi + >iyapha whicle
akichiphapi originates in aphA and kichi-.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That's what I was trying to say, if you agree that kichi- is the
reciprocal marker here.</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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