<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>So apparently one could write these: tookhaa mi hiiyata and tookhaa mi klee, if I'm reading this right.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 11/1/09, Rankin, Robert L <I><rankin@ku.edu></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Rankin, Robert L <rankin@ku.edu><BR>Subject: RE: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals<BR>To: siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU<BR>Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 8:25 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>The colon after a vowel means that vowel is long, i.e., the pronunciation is drawn out. Long vowels are typically about one and a half times as long in duration as short vowels. All the Siouan languages except Dakota have long and short vowels.<BR><BR>The "h" after p, t, ch, or k marks aspiration. It is like an actual H sound after the consonant. P with the little H would be like the ph of "loophole". KH, as in tokha, would be like "backhoe". I normally just use the letter "h" rather than the raised h. <BR><BR>Your parse of the words for 'west' look right to me. I don't know the 'east' term, but you obviously have the right idea.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc538.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU" ymailto="mailto:owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</A> on
behalf of Scott Collins<BR>Sent: Sat 10/31/2009 9:32 PM<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc538.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU" ymailto="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</A><BR>Subject: Tutelo-Saponi Directionals<BR><BR><BR>Going back to the question on the directional words in Tutelo-Saponi. I have taken the advice here and come up with the following let me know if it is correct or not.<BR><BR>the West = to:ka: mi hi:yata<BR><BR>mi = sun<BR>to:ka: = where<BR>hi:yata = sleep<BR><BR><BR>There is a lowercase "h" between k and a in to:ka: but I do not have a font for that nor do I understand the ":" part of the word.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Also would East then be to:ka: mi kle:?<BR><BR>kle: = awake<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Scott P. Collins<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>