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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of my Ponca consultants, who prefers to remain
unnamed, tells me that the word for 'stick beetle' in Ponca is /ttee etta
waa'bazu/ (literally, '[he] points in the direction of the
buffalo').</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kathy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ishna00@hotmail.com href="mailto:ishna00@hotmail.com">ThodeCharles</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: a strange query -- off
topic.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3>It's also in
the </FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3> Osage</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3> side page 159, left column 4th word from the
bottom: <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><B>tse'howainge</B></FONT></FONT><BR><BR>C.Thode<BR><BR>> Date: Wed,
4 Nov 2009 11:44:16 -0700<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:David.Rood@Colorado.EDU">David.Rood@Colorado.EDU</A><BR>> To:
<A href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Interesting!! As kids (in rural New York state) we used to ask daddy
<BR>> longlegs (a particular kind of big spider) "Which way are the cows
going" <BR>> (without touching the spider, of course) and the spider would
stick out <BR>> one or another of its legs to answer us.<BR>> <BR>>
David S. Rood<BR>> Dept. of Linguistics<BR>> Univ. of Colorado<BR>>
295 UCB<BR>> Boulder, CO 80309-0295<BR>> USA<BR>>
rood@colorado.edu<BR>> <BR>&g! t; On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rory M Larson
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Nice, David!<BR>> ><BR>> > My copy is
handy, and it's actually under 'walkingstick (insect)' on the<BR>> >
English side. On the Osage side we have:<BR>> ><BR>> > ttse'
ho-wa-iN-ge, walking stick (bug);<BR>> > ttse, buffalo; ho-wa-iN-ge,
where are they.<BR>> > When a child catches a walking stick it
squeezes<BR>> > it between his fingers and asks, "Where are the<BR>>
> buffalo?" Then the little bug will point straight<BR>> > ahead, to
the right or to the left, and thus the<BR>> > child gets the answer to
his question.<BR>> ><BR>> > Hope this is a help to computer
science.<BR>> ><BR>> > Rory<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ROOD DAVID S
<David.Rood@Colorado.EDU><BR>> > Sent by:
owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU<BR>> > 11/04/2009! 10:50 AM<BR>> >
Please respond to<BR>> > siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > To<BR>> > siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU<BR>> >
cc<BR>> ><BR>> > Subject<BR>> > Re: FW: a strange query --
off topic.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > One of my students, Chuck Thode,
tells me that the word for 'walking<BR>> > stick' in the Osage
dictionary means something like 'where did<BR>> > the buffalo go' (so
look under the English word 'buffalo'). Apparently<BR>> > there is a
description there of how the walking stick told the hunters<BR>> > which
way to go. My copy of the LaFlesche dictionary is not handy at the<BR>>
> moment, so someone else should verify this.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Bob, you'll have to forward this to Sally.<BR>> ><BR>> > David S.
Rood<BR>> > Dept. of Linguistics<BR>> > Uni! v. of
Colorado<BR>> > 295 UCB<BR>> > Boulder, CO 80309-0295<BR>> >
USA<BR>> > rood@colorado.edu<BR>> ><BR>> > On Wed, 4 Nov
2009, Rankin, Robert L wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> I had this query
from Sally Thomason, who works with Salish-speaking<BR>> > people in
Montana. Has anyone heard anything like her beetle account<BR>> > from
plains tribes?<BR>> >><BR>> >> It sounds to me a bit like
some of our local farmers who say you can<BR>> > tell how cold it will
be in the coming Winter by seeing how thick the coat<BR>> > is on fuzzy
caterpillars.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Bob<BR>> >><BR>>
>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> >><BR>> >> Here's a
weird question: I've heard that some Plains Indians<BR>> >> consulted
a beetle (or maybe a grasshopper) to decide which<BR>> >> direction
to hunt in, by picking it up and seeing how the<BR>>! ; >> antennae
waved. Can you shed any light on this? Have<BR>> >> you heard it? Did
someone do this, and if so, who? And if<BR>> >> you haven't heard
about it but think it could possibly be a<BR>> >> true account, can
you suggest someone else I should ask?<BR>> >><BR>> >> (I'm
cc'ing Rich on this message because he claims,<BR>> >> rather
improbably, that the answer would help him with<BR>> >> his research
-- research which, as far as I know, is not<BR>> >> concerned with
Plains Indians.) [Rich is in computer science. Bob]<BR>> >><BR>>
>> -- Sally<BR>> >><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR><BR>
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