<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/USInsects/">http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/USInsects/</a></div><div>Here is a link to get a visual on your walking sticks. Which</div><div>Of the four listed are you referring to?</div><div><br></div><div>We were just discussing on PIStwo how Crows and a few other animals always point towards game. Never off topic to</div><div>understand the habits a language is used. <br>From Billy's iTouch</div><div><br>On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:30 AM, "Kathleen Shea" <<a href="mailto:kdshea@aol.com">kdshea@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">One of my Ponca consultants, who prefers to remain
unnamed, tells me that the word for 'stick beetle' in Ponca is /ttee etta
waa'bazu/ (literally, '[he] points in the direction of the
buffalo').</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kathy</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ishna00@hotmail.com" href="mailto:ishna00@hotmail.com">ThodeCharles</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU" href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</a></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:32
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> RE: a strange query -- off
topic.</div>
<div><br></div><font style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size="3">It's also in
the </font><font style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size="3"> Osage</font><font style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size="3"> side page 159, left column 4th word from the
bottom: <font style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size="4"><b>tse'howainge</b></font></font><br><br>C.Thode<br><br>> Date: Wed,
4 Nov 2009 11:44:16 -0700<br>> From: <a href="mailto:David.Rood@Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:David.Rood@Colorado.EDU">David.Rood@Colorado.EDU</a></a><br>> To:
<a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</a></a><br>>
Subject: Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.<br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> Interesting!! As kids (in rural New York state) we used to ask daddy
<br>> longlegs (a particular kind of big spider) "Which way are the cows
going" <br>> (without touching the spider, of course) and the spider would
stick out <br>> one or another of its legs to answer us.<br>> <br>>
David S. Rood<br>> Dept. of Linguistics<br>> Univ. of Colorado<br>>
295 UCB<br>> Boulder, CO 80309-0295<br>> USA<br>>
<a href="mailto:rood@colorado.edu"><a href="mailto:rood@colorado.edu">rood@colorado.edu</a></a><br>> <br>&g! t; On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rory M Larson
wrote:<br>> <br>> > Nice, David!<br>> ><br>> > My copy is
handy, and it's actually under 'walkingstick (insect)' on the<br>> >
English side. On the Osage side we have:<br>> ><br>> > ttse'
ho-wa-iN-ge, walking stick (bug);<br>> > ttse, buffalo; ho-wa-iN-ge,
where are they.<br>> > When a child catches a walking stick it
squeezes<br>> > it between his fingers and asks, "Where are the<br>>
> buffalo?" Then the little bug will point straight<br>> > ahead, to
the right or to the left, and thus the<br>> > child gets the answer to
his question.<br>> ><br>> > Hope this is a help to computer
science.<br>> ><br>> > Rory<br>> ><br>> ><br>>
><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ROOD DAVID S
<<a href="mailto:David.Rood@Colorado.EDU">David.Rood@Colorado.EDU</a>><br>> > Sent by:
<a href="mailto:owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">owner-siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</a></a><br>> > 11/04/2009! 10:50 AM<br>> >
Please respond to<br>> > <a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</a></a><br>> ><br>>
><br>> > To<br>> > <a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU"><a href="mailto:siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU">siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU</a></a><br>> >
cc<br>> ><br>> > Subject<br>> > Re: FW: a strange query --
off topic.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>>
><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > One of my students, Chuck Thode,
tells me that the word for 'walking<br>> > stick' in the Osage
dictionary means something like 'where did<br>> > the buffalo go' (so
look under the English word 'buffalo'). Apparently<br>> > there is a
description there of how the walking stick told the hunters<br>> > which
way to go. My copy of the LaFlesche dictionary is not handy at the<br>>
> moment, so someone else should verify this.<br>> ><br>> >
Bob, you'll have to forward this to Sally.<br>> ><br>> > David S.
Rood<br>> > Dept. of Linguistics<br>> > Uni! v. of
Colorado<br>> > 295 UCB<br>> > Boulder, CO 80309-0295<br>> >
USA<br>> > <a href="mailto:rood@colorado.edu"><a href="mailto:rood@colorado.edu">rood@colorado.edu</a></a><br>> ><br>> > On Wed, 4 Nov
2009, Rankin, Robert L wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> I had this query
from Sally Thomason, who works with Salish-speaking<br>> > people in
Montana. Has anyone heard anything like her beetle account<br>> > from
plains tribes?<br>> >><br>> >> It sounds to me a bit like
some of our local farmers who say you can<br>> > tell how cold it will
be in the coming Winter by seeing how thick the coat<br>> > is on fuzzy
caterpillars.<br>> >><br>> >> Bob<br>> >><br>>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>> >><br>> >> Here's a
weird question: I've heard that some Plains Indians<br>> >> consulted
a beetle (or maybe a grasshopper) to decide which<br>> >> direction
to hunt in, by picking it up and seeing how the<br>>! ; >> antennae
waved. Can you shed any light on this? Have<br>> >> you heard it? Did
someone do this, and if so, who? And if<br>> >> you haven't heard
about it but think it could possibly be a<br>> >> true account, can
you suggest someone else I should ask?<br>> >><br>> >> (I'm
cc'ing Rich on this message because he claims,<br>> >> rather
improbably, that the answer would help him with<br>> >> his research
-- research which, as far as I know, is not<br>> >> concerned with
Plains Indians.) [Rich is in computer science. Bob]<br>> >><br>>
>> -- Sally<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br><br>
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