<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Thanks Bryan,<br>I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Glad you liked the 'information structure'<br>Yours<br>Bruce<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 5/1/11, Bryan James Gordon <i><linguista@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Bryan James Gordon <linguista@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: plea for help from Mac users<br>To: siouan@lists.Colorado.EDU<br>Date: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 16:37<br><br><div id="yiv1753812039"><div dir="ltr">Dear Bruce,<div><br></div><div>I recently had the pleasure of reading some of your work on information structure in Arabic. Thanks for that!</div><div><br></div><div>I use Mac pretty regularly. If I am not mistaken, your goal is to produce a separate Lakota font such that, using a standard American keyboard layout, people can get
access to all the Lakota characters. I would suggest an alternative, and much easier to code, route:</div>
<div><ol><li>Install a Unicode-compliant font that has all the characters from most American languages, like Aboriginal Serif/Sans, from <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://languagegeek.org">languagegeek.org</a>, or Gentium/Doulos and the other SIL fonts, or any other Unicode font with all the characters you need.</li>
<li>Download the <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://languagegeek.org/siouan/keyboards/si_kbds.html">Lakota keyboard from languagegeek.org</a> (click on "Mac Download for All languages") and follow the easy installation instructions for Mac.</li>
</ol><div>This will give you several advantages over the old-fashioned approach of one language, one font. </div><div><ol><li>Someone else has already done all the coding work. (They have three different Lakota keyboards to choose from!)</li>
<li>Everyone who uses this system, will have Unicode-compliant (and therefore electronically archivable) copy instead of something that depends on a particular font.</li><li>The Mac Siouan keyboard is easy to use, easy to switch back and forth to English keyboard (in Mac you can use Command-Space to switch keyboards usually), and is built into the desktop so that you can easily adjust your settings no matter what you're doing; and Mac also allows you to look at a picture of your keyboard on your screen if that helps. Very functional.</li>
</ol><div>In the "All-in-One" keyboard the long ƞ is on your semicolon key, the inverted comma and hacek on the left-bracket key. In the "Long ƞ" keyboard the inverted comma is on the grave accent key, and only the hacek is on the left-bracket key. The "White Hat" keyboard does not have haceks. Thus the characters you ask specifically about, p' t' c' k' š ž č <span class="yiv1753812039Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,code2000,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">ǧ ȟ, are easily produced using either of two already available Lakota keyboards.</span></div>
<div><span class="yiv1753812039Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,code2000,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv1753812039Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,code2000,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">Hope that helps!</span></div>
<div><span class="yiv1753812039Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,code2000,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></div><div><span class="yiv1753812039Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,code2000,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">- Bryan</span></div>
</div><br><div class="yiv1753812039gmail_quote">2011/1/5 shokooh Ingham <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:shokoohbanou@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=shokoohbanou@yahoo.co.uk">shokoohbanou@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="yiv1753812039gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear all,<br>
Do any of you use a mac? I think I'm in the minority by using them. I need to develop a font for writing Lakota. It needs to have the possibility of an acute accent for vowel stress, a long n for the nasal vowels, an inverted comma to make p'-, t'- c'- and k'- and a hatchek to go over s-, z-, c-, g- and h-. I don't mind how pedestrian it is and if I have to put the hatcheks on separately that's OK. Macs used to be easy, but the more advanced they have become, the less things you can do in your own way. I have of course got unicode, but it's difficult to make a font with it.<br>
Hope someone can help.<br>
Yours<br>
Bruce<br>
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