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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">Congrats again to Jimm. Needless to say, I can’t wait to hear and see the newly available Jiwere stuff!!!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">Mark - very interesting Omaha version. Good to remember that much of the meaning may be something that was inferred from the original creation of the name, and that
was rendered in the English gloss, rather than having a word-for-word kind of name.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">Bob and all the other historical folks- Remember that there’s no phonemic nasal O in Jiwere, so how do those Dhegiha phonemes Mark was pointing out translate into
IOM? Would it be an oral O, or a nasal U? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">And now, to muddy things up more, let me add that there are a lot of times where there is a vowel phonetically closer to a nasal schwa to my ear, but those are usually
an underlying A</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">n. </span><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">But Hamilton and Irvin did occasionally write a nasal O, if I’m
remembering things correctly. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"; color:#1F497D">Someone better at phonology and historical reconstructions want to jump in here?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Awakuni-Swetland<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 13, 2012 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: NAME</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Aloha All,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Here are a few ramblings to offer.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Following on Bob's suggestion that
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">co-co => shoN-shoN</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Consider the Omaha male command
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">'shoN shoN ga!'</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> that tells someone to continue whatever s/he is/was doing…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Applying the same vowel sound and nasal quality to the preceding syllable makes
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">-to- => ttoN (or) tHoN</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">To possess as a charecteristic as buffalo have horns.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">or</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The standing animate as in uheatHoN => in, linear inanimate, at/on, stand 'bridge, ladder, stairs'</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">or some other interpretation…?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">And the
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">wa- as 'class of' or 'them'</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> or any of its various interpretations…?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Perhaps
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">wa-to-co-co</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> would be rendered in Omaha as
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">wa-tHoN-shoN-shoN</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> suggesting …the class of things that continue to stand… but
taking into account the animate tHoN, it could be refering to </span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">the person</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> standing
with the staff (first option), or </span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">the staff itself</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> if considered animate in
the manner that the Omaha Sacred Pole is considered animate (second option).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Taking a clue from Jimm's most recent note, he suggested the name may not be specific to a society staff.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">An alternate consideration could be that perhaps it is specific to any/all society staffs but not personal staffs or staffs used to lead the buffalo hunt
(Omaha), or a referent to a particular society in this group, but the name does not identify it since it has no contextual information.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Perhaps similar to a 19th century Omaha person mentioning the name
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:red">'wasabe'</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> in conversation. The discussion had been about the recent meeting of
the Bear Doctoring Society, so the term 'wasabe' (the class of black things, i.e. black bear) is a referent specifically of a society and not the animal.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Mark Awakuni-Swetland</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Siouan Linguistics
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rankin, Robert L.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August 12, 2012 4:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: NAME</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Well, if it's Dorsey's transcription he wouldn't have gotten the vowels wrong. I don't recognize the name, but I was wondering of the -coco ending was maybe -shoN-shoN? I don't know
if this expression exists in Jiwere or not though, although it is found in all the Dhegiha dialects.<br>
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Bob</span></p>
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on behalf of Jimm G. GoodTracks [jgoodtracks@GMAIL.COM]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: NAME</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt; color:blue">I believe, Bob, this may be Dorsey's transcription. Weather it is a K ~ Ch ~ Sh sound - the duplication would be unusual. I would anticipated for "standing" = jida, nayin, dahe. Possibly, the
sound is a "j" and it would be more logical if instead of a "co" it was a "jeje." There is a verb: rujijire (walk to and from). Perhaps it is meant to be: jije. Then, it would have more of the context of Arrive Standing with Something, which is not specific
to a society staff. What do you think? </span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">
<a href="mailto:rankin@KU.EDU" target="_blank" title="mailto:rankin@KU.EDU
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"> Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:48
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">The name isn't familiar to me. Do you know how the letter "c" is supposed to be sounded? Is it a K sound? Or does it represent "ch" or maybe the "sh" sound it has in the Smithsonian
alphabet??<br>
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Bob</span></p>
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on behalf of Jimm G. GoodTracks [jgoodtracks@GMAIL.COM]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 10, 2012 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> NAME</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt; color:#1F497D">On the 1891 OM census. the name “Wa-to-co-co” meaning something along lines of “Standing with Staff” or “Standing with Dancing Staff.” Among those of you who have worked with the names of
Hochank, Kaws, Osage, Ponca/ Omaha, Quapaw, have anyone found a similar name that refers to holding a staff that represents some society? It is not apparent in the name as documented here.
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