<div dir="ltr">In the Dorsey texts for Omaha and Ponca, "uxpathe" /uxpaðe/ is "lost", and for the transitive "lose" there seems to be a choice of using "uxpathe" or the causative "uxpathethe" /uxpaðe-ðe/.<div>
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To: <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" target="_blank">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 11:21 AM<div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<div>The Biloxi word for 'lose' is ka-paha-ni-ye: ka- and -ni are the circumfix for negation; paha means something like 'sight' or 'appearance'; -ye is the causative = something like 'cause to not be in sight' or 'cause to be invisible.' <br>
<br>Dave<br><br>
<div>On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Scott Collins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=saponi360@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">saponi360@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">What would comparative words be in other Dhegiha languages and what would be the literal translation of those words? I'm hoping to be able to extrapolate the word for loss or lost through comparison unless there is a word that is used for loss in Tutelo-Saponi.<u></u><u></u></span> </p>
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</p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">I was thinking perhaps "iha:o ki-hiye-nE".<u></u><u></u></span>
</p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Literally, "no balance". <u></u><u></u></span>
</p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">lE= go, no= yaha or iha:o, and way = hatkox (path)<u></u><u></u></span>
</p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">lE:yaha:hatkox or lE:yahatkox-se<u></u><u></u></span>
</p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Could these words figure into gone away (lost, lose)...<u></u><u></u></span>
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<div><br>Scott P. Collins<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR<br><br>Evil Is An Outer Manifestation Of An Inner Struggle<br><br>“Men and women become accomplices to those evils they fail to oppose.”<br>
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