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The plain uxpare verb mainly means to fall or drop, from a height.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryan James Gordon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 01, 2013 2:56 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Words for Loss, Lose and Lost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the Dorsey texts for Omaha and Ponca, "uxpathe" /uxpaðe/ is "lost", and for the transitive "lose" there seems to be a choice of using "uxpathe" or the causative "uxpathethe" /uxpaðe-ðe/.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2013/2/25 Scott Collins <<a href="mailto:saponi360@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saponi360@yahoo.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Dave, I didn't see that one in the Biloxi dictionary. I must have missed it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">--- On <b>Sat, 2/23/13, David Kaufman <i><<a href="mailto:dvkanth2010@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">dvkanth2010@GMAIL.COM</a>></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: David Kaufman <<a href="mailto:dvkanth2010@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">dvkanth2010@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Words for Loss, Lose and Lost<br>
To: <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" target="_blank">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 11:21 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The Biloxi word for 'lose' is ka-paha-ni-ye: ka- and -ni are the circumfix for negation; paha means something like 'sight' or 'appearance'; -ye is the causative = something like 'cause to not be in sight' or
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Hello, I was trying to find the word or words for loss, lose and lost in Tutelo-Saponi.
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">What would comparative words be in other Dhegiha languages and what would be the literal translation of those words? I'm hoping to be able to extrapolate the word for loss or lost through comparison unless there is
a word that is used for loss in Tutelo-Saponi. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I was thinking perhaps "iha:o ki-hiye-nE".
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Literally, "no balance". <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">lE= go, no= yaha or iha:o, and way = hatkox (path)
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">lE:yaha:hatkox or lE:yahatkox-se <o:p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Could these words figure into gone away (lost, lose)...
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WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR<br>
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Linguistic Anthropology<o:p></o:p></p>
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