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<div><font face="Arial">> Oliverio has</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2]"><span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0"><span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[0]">"pi:
good"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[1]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[2]">"stative V"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[3]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[4]">piwa 'good' ---pg. 268, Oliverio<br>
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I think, after thinking about it, that "pi" meaning 'good' should have the aspirated "p<sup>h</sup>" Desiderative mode should have the unaspirated "p". In other words, they sound different.</span></span></span></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span><span><span><span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[8]">> "-pi desiderative mode"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[9]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[10]">"V suffix"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[11]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[12]">"bi 'desiderative form' (H1878b); bi, be 'desiderative form' (H1883a)"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[13]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[14]">"Ofo: -be 'future' "</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[15]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[16]">"maybe from pi: 'good' ; Hale: 'inserted before the negative suffix na' "</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[17]">
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<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[20]">> "pi:kha good, fine"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[21]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[22]">"V"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[23]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[24]">"ipikin 'handsome' (H1879)"
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I think it should be "phikha" in Oliverio's spelling. "p<sup>h</sup>ik<sup>h</sup>a" in my spelling here.<br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[25]">
</span><span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[26]"></span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[27]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[28]">> "pi smell"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[29]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[30]">"V"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[31]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[32]">"la-ka-pin, la-ka-pinin (Hw)"</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[33]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[34]">"see lakapi 'emit an odor' ; see also uwalahaha:</span><br id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[35]">
<span id=".reactRoot[21].[1][4][1]{comment500417800017842_522049581187997}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[36]">'smell', wihoxkupsua: 'fishy smell' " ---pg. 269, Oliverio<br>
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It looks to me as though 'smell' has a nasal vowel and is therefore different in pronunciation from the other two entries, above. It would be "pi<sup>n</sup>". It turns out to be instructive to look at 'smell' is some of the other Siouan languages. I think
it turns out that whoever translated "pin" as 'emit an odor' was closest to the same word in related languages. The word actually means '</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">to fart':
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">CROW pía ~ pípia ‘fart’, HIDATSA</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> pí(h) ~ pía ‘fart’,</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">MANDAN píh ‘break wind’,
WINNEBAGO wį́į ‘break wind’, and finally TUTELO lakapįʔį ‘smell, emit an odor’ from the Dorsey slip file.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">There you have it. All three of our 'pi' words were pronounced differently, but the 'smell' word is the intransitive verb 'to smell', as in 'to stink', so it is probably
not the term you want to use for 'a smell'. So in summary, we have:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">p<sup>h</sup>i 'to be good'</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">pi 'desiderative mode'</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">pi<sup>n</sup> 'to smell, give off an odor'<i> (probably really meant 'fart', but those fellows a century ago were too </i></span><i><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">polite
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