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<div>It is Algonquian for RIVER.</div>
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Scott Collins <saponi360@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>
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Old names for the river include "Clinch's River" and "Pelisipi River" (and variant spellings such as "Pelisippi" and "Pellissippi").[1] The name Pellissippi that appears on some early maps is said to have been the Cherokees' name for the river and is said to
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[2] "The Pellissippi State Story 1974-1998". Pellissippi State Community College. Retrieved July 24, 2013. Note: The Cherokee origin of "Pellissippi" is questionable, as there is no “P” sound in the Cherokee syllabary (D. Ray Smith. "View of the Bear Creek
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<div><font size="3">I had looked in the name Mosopelea-sippi or Mosopeleacipi, a name the Indians called the Ohio River. This ending portion of the words used for river names is what I have been wondering about. The above mention of the old Indian name for
the Clinch River is Pelisipi/Pelissippi/Pellissippi. When I first saw this I knew it was not a Cherokee name or word based on my research on the Mosopelea-sippi name and the possible connection to Anishinaabe (Ojibwe or Algonquin</font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:19.1875px">)
and/or </span></font><font size="3">(the Shawnee place names for rivers).</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Kis-ke-pi-la-se-pe</font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:19.1875px"> ( another name for the Ohio River)</span></font></div>
<div><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><span style="line-height:19.1875px">Other River Names with same endings:</span></font></div>
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Mississippi</div>
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Shipakicipi</div>
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Misseouscipi</div>
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<span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">The </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">Ohio River</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"> (</span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_language" title="Seneca language" style="text-decoration:none; color:rgb(11,0,128); font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">Seneca</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">: </span><span lang="see" style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"><i>ohi:yó</i></span><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">)</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"> (</span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawnee_language" title="Shawnee language" style="text-decoration:none; color:rgb(11,0,128); font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">Shawnee</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px">: </span><i style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"><b>Pelewathiipi</b></i><span style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"> or </span><i style="font-family:sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:19.1875px"><b>Spelewathiipi); </b></i></div>
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In seeing a similarity with Pelewathiipi and Pelisipi/Pelissippi I am wondering what this means and whether it was a generic type of term or perhaps a descriptive term. Obviously the Clinch River isn't the same as the Ohio River so I'm curious as to how the
Cherokee began to use this name for the Clinch.</div>
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