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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I think there may be a borrowed Lakota form for ‘to baptise’, if I correctly recall a 1950s article by Voegelin and Hymes. Thanks for the [elkar] form –
maybe it explains the appeal of Basque to Dutch scholars such as Rudolf de Rijk and Peter Bakker. : )</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>De Reuse, Willem<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 September 2013 15:58<br>
<b>To:</b> SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Locatives and wa- problems.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">It is not unlikely that this was influenced by "mirrorglass". But it has a good Lakota etymology (see the New Lakota Dictionary), so this is NOT a loan from
English. (Coincidences happen. My favorite is [elkar] which means 'each other' in Dutch and in Basque.)<br>
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Willem</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"> Siouan Linguistics [SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
on behalf of Anthony Grant [Granta@EDGEHILL.AC.UK]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:13 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Locatives and wa- problems.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"> Siouan Linguistics [<a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu">mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>De Reuse, Willem<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 September 2013 00:10<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Locatives and wa- problems.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Good question! This reminds me of my favorite "Siouanist turned Athabascanist" pet peeve. Sapir famously said that there is something about Athabascan languages
that prevents them from borrowing from other languages.<br>
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This never convinced me, since Siouan languages borrow very little from other languages as well, and structurally they are less complex than Athabascan. The only loanword I can think of in traditional Lakota is bebela, from French bebe.<br>
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Of course I am sure that in modern Lakota, when everyone is bilingual if not dominant in English, there is a lot of English... But that is true of modern Navajo as well.<br>
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Willem</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"> Siouan Linguistics [SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
on behalf of David Costa [pankihtamwa@EARTHLINK.NET]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 07, 2013 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" target="_blank">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Locatives and wa- problems.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bob, are you aware of <i>any </i>Algonquian influences on Hochunk? Despite their being an island of Siouan in a sea of Algonquian languages, they seem to have mixed
<i>very </i>little with the Algonquians in Wisconsin. I'm not aware of a single Hochunk loan in any Algonquian language. </span></p>
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