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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Thanks for the interesting comments, Bob.<br>
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And thanks for your input, David. Yes, this is indeed what I also find. If Bob was correct about Lakota stress rules, then the numerous verbs with blu-, glu-, bla- gla-, would have stress on the first syllable, but they don't.<br>
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I think I am not Eurocentric about my phonology, though. (After all, the first class in good ole American phonology I ever took, as a young wide-eyed European whippersnapper, was with you, Bob.) The Eurocentrics are the ones who gave us Minnesota for mnisota,
etc. I admit to being a Lakotacentric sort of Siouanist. But I think you, Bob, are of the Dhegihacentric sort! ;-)<br>
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Willem<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF525166"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Siouan Linguistics [SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu] on behalf of Rankin, Robert L. [rankin@KU.EDU]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 09, 2013 8:51 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Lakota phonetics<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="4">I can't really speak for Dakotan, but in Dhegiha my recollection of words beginning with organic
<i>bl-</i> (i.e. not 1sg conjugated verbs) accent the initial syllable, <i>Blo<font size="4">g</font>a, blaska, blekka</i>, and dozens of others. You just don't find a lot of *blVC(C)v'. I'm not as certain about reflexes of GL as they all lose their G in Osage
and Kaw. I'm not counting forms with prefixes like <i>wanblAke</i> in Dakota altho' it matches my analysis<i>.
</i><font size="4">I think it might be an interesting experiment to do a dictionary count in both Dakotan and Dhegiha. Maybe I'm totally wrong about the accentual pattern; I'm wor<font size="4">king from memory here.
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<font size="4">And we're gonna HAVE to get you away from that antiquated email program you use
<font size="4">and into Unicode, Dude.<br>
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<font size="4">Bob</font><br>
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From: Siouan Linguistics [SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu] on behalf of ROOD DAVID S [david.rood@COLORADO.EDU]<br>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:15 PM<br>
To: SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu<br>
Subject: Lakota phonetics<br>
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Bob, this time I think you're wrong for synchronic Lakota, and Willem is<br>
right. There are hundreds of words which, if bl counted as a whole<br>
syllable, would have to be considered to be stessed on the third syllable.<br>
bluhA, blatkE, wanblAke, blokEtu.... ditto for gl. (My email doesn't do<br>
accent marks.)That doesn't make sense: stress is on the first or second<br>
syllable unless one of those syllables begins with bl, in which case it's<br>
on the third?<br>
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David S. Rood<br>
Dept. of Linguistics<br>
Univ. of Colorado<br>
295 UCB<br>
Boulder, CO 80309-0295<br>
USA<br>
rood@colorado.edu<br>
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