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Thanks for this. Comment follows. <font size="4">Bob</font></font><br>
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</font><font style="font-size:16pt" color="#008A17" size="4">> Hoocąk grizzly bear is
</font><b><font style="font-size:16pt" color="#008A17" size="4"><i>mąąco</i></font></b><font style="font-size:16pt" color="#008A17" size="4"> (definitely with a voiceless affricate)</font><font style="font-size:16pt" color="#008A17" size="4"><br>
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<font size="4"><font face="Arial"><font size="4"><font size="4">T</font>his is the word that has /th/ or
<font size="4">the deriv<font size="4">ative /ch/ is ALL the<font size="4"> Mississippi Valley Siouan languages.
<font size="4">So t</font>he /<font size="4">ch/ does NOT become IPA [ʤ] in this particular case even though these voiceless aspirates usually come up as voiced stops in Chiwere-Hochunk. It's an interesting exception. I'm guessing i<font size="4">t's the
same in Chiwere.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
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> As for cow elk, I’m not aware of there being a specific word for <font style="font-size:16pt" size="4">
a</font> female elk, generally elk is <b><i>hųųwą</i></b></font><font style="font-size:16pt" color="#008A17" size="4"><br>
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</font><font size="4"><font face="Arial">OK, that's the cognate that goes with Dhegiha
<font size="4"><i>ooph</i></font><i>ą</i></font></font><i> </i><font size="4"><font face="Arial">and it seems to show a
<font size="4">reflex of what would have been /b/, as expected. So 'elk' isn't exceptional. In the plains languages it's usually 'cow elk' and the bull is something like
<i>he xaka.</i> Bob</font></font></font><br>
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> The "true aspirates" in Omaha should generally have voiced counterparts in Hochunk. There may be interesting exceptions. I'd like to check 'cow elk' and 'grizzly'. Hochunk should have voiced stops in cognates for
<font style="font-size:16pt" size="4">Dhegiha </font><i>ophaN</i> and <i>maNtho</i>.
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