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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Thanks very much for this, Bob. It is clear that regarding 1dt person inflected Lakota verbs in yu- ya- etc. some restructuring went on.<br>
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It is good to notice, though, that some of the disyllabic stems stressed on the first syllable end in the ablauting -A, so according to the Dakota Stress Rule, they are stressed on a monosyllabic stem, since the Dakota Stress Rule applies, if I remember correctly,
before the ablauting -A is added to a monosyllabic stem.<br>
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See for example:<br>
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mnúga Engl. to crunch, as a horse does in eating corn CLASS v. p. 340<br>
mnux v. also cont. of mnuga E.g. mnuxmnúga CLASS v. red. of mnuga v. also mnuga v. also yamnúmnuga E.g. mnuxyéla ‘in a crunching way CLASS adv. p. 340<br>
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Buechel does not show ablauting -A consistently, but the New Lakota Dictionary does, so we have mnúgA.<br>
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Willem<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr; font-family:Arial; color:#000000; font-size:14pt">I've had a couple of requests for my data sets from the various dictionaries, so here are the BL/BN/MN sets from 4 languages. Rory says that Omaha matches the other Dhegiha sets.
These are nothing but the pertinent entries culled from lexica by Buechel, Quintero and Rankin for the 4 languages.<br>
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As David points out, the Dakotan data show clearly how phonological restructuring takes place.<br>
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Enjoy,<br>
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Bob<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr; font-family:Tahoma; color:#000000; font-size:10pt">My comments on Lakota below.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial">Dakota</span></u><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial"><span style="">
</span>Of approx. 71 lexemes in <i style="">bl-/mn</i>- all but 16 accent the initial syllable.<span style="">
</span>Of those 16, 6 are reduplicanda, leaving only 10 out of 71 with 2nd syllable accent.<span style="">
</span>5 are examples of incorporated <i style="">mni</i> ‘water’.<span style="">
</span>Apparently incorporanda are unaccented or, at least, accent the second syllable, as in Willem’s study. My data are from Buechel because it's the only computerized Dakota dictionary I have. I'm sure Jan's dictionary would be an improvement.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial">So I stand by my original statement, and it works for the most part except for some restructuring (but not much) in Lakota. Data provided on request.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial">Bob: I am confused by the above. I know there are some nouns and stative verbs with bl- initial stem that stress the first syllable in Buechel (I count 9 in 1970 edition, the 2002 edition
is less reliable on this). I also looked at the 1st person inflected verb forms starting in blu- and bla- in the paper Buechel dictionaries (1970 and 2002 editions) and if these forms are given, they are written without any stress mark, so for the overwhelming
majority of bl- forms </span><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:Arial">from Buechel,
</span>one cannot tell where the bla- and blu- are stressed. I then looked at the New Lakota Dictionary (Jan's), which has all the bla- and blu- verb forms with stress marks, and there you will see that they are stressed on (what I consider to be) the second
syllable, i.e. the syllable following bla- or blu. I did not do a count, but at least the overwhelming majority is stressed that way. So one has to postulate massive
</span><font face="Arial" size="4">restructuring in Lakota diachronically, and from a synchronic point of view one has to postulate that the Dakota Stress Rule treats bluCV and blaCV as two syllables rather than as three.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="4">Again, I don't mean to harp on this. Your real results for Dhegiha and all other Siouan look great, I am just making sure that we understand each other regarding the Lakota real results. Maybe we are counting
blapples and bloranges! ;)<br>
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