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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Arial;color: #000000;font-size: 14pt;"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The meaning 'over, on top of'
<font size="4">would be</font> derived from the original 'sit on' meaning. I haven't checked Jimm's dictionary to see if Chiwere has the direct descendant,
</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><i>agrį</i> 'sit on'. Nor do I know<font size="4"> about Hochunk. The original "teen" formative was closer to
<i>ake </i>or <i>aki</i>, but Chiwere and Dhegiha both<font size="4"> seem to use 'sit on' instead. The
<i>a-</i> of</font></font></span></span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">
<i>agrį</i></span></span></span></font> </font></font></span></span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">is the locative 'on, upon' and
</span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><i>grį</i>
is the verb root. It comes out </span></span></span></font></font></font></span></span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><i>ag</i></span></span></font></span></span></span></font></font></font></span></span></font><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial">ð</span></i><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><i><!--[if gte mso 10]>
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</i><font size="4">in Omaha and Ponca, </font></span></span></font></span></span></span></font></font></font></span></span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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in Quapaw and </font></span></span></span></font></font></font></span></span></font><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><font size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><i>a<font size="4">l</font>į
</i><font size="4">in Kansa and Osage. It doesn't appear to be related to <i>-gri
</i>or -<i>gre </i><font size="4">at all. The Chiwere details would have to come from you and Jimm.<br>
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<font size="4">Sorry about misleading you earlier about 'seven' containing the word for 'two'.
<font size="4">That's true of Dhegiha languages but not of Chiwere. My 74 year old memory failed me for a moment. But you have the correct cogna<font size="4">te set<font size="4">s now.
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</i></span></span></span></font></font></font></span></span></font><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">> I haven’t seen a sense of “to sit on” with the term “agrį.” The sense I am familiar with is along the lines
of “over” which is what got me to thinking about the idea of it being related to that prefix “gre-“ when you mentioned the quinary counting system. I was curious if that sense of “over” would have applied 5 digits earlier with that counting system and that
maybe for some reason the term for eight was the last remnant of it. But even with the sense of “to sit on” you mentioned, it is used with the current semi-quinary/semi-decimal counting system when the digits “roll over.”</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I am curious about the sense of “to sit on” with that term, though. Coming at it from an OM point of view, I can see how the prefix “a-“ would indicate “on”
but haven’t seen anything along the lines of “grį” to mean sit. The closest thing I can think of that sounds close to “grį” is the verb “gri” which is “to return home” (no idea if they are related or not). Is that sense a general Siouan concept for that
term or is it perhaps from the Proto-Siouan you mentioned in the other email?</span></p>
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