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<p>I don't know if Dhegiha will help, but 'shoot' in all of its meanings is <em>kkuje</em> and 'gun'
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<font face="Arial">wahóttą, i.e., something that makes a loud characteristic noise. In some of the Eastern Siouan languages 'gun' is the same as 'bow'.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">That makes perfect sense! I’ll do some digging but what immediately comes to mind is our term for August which is Huma Yochiŋe (Elk Whistle). Wistrand-Robinson
(1972) has “i</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">y</span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">ó</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">je</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”.
Jimm’s dictionary has several variants of this. I’ll see what else I can find.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As far as “shoot” we have a couple. First is the basic “kuje” (seems to match your “guuc”) but I haven’t seen that specifically used as far as shooting
a gun but rather shoot in general or shooting a bow. That isn’t to say that “kuje” by itself can’t be used to indicate shooting a gun…I just haven’t come across a specific precedent yet. However, I do have the term “iyujį kuje” to mean shooting a gun. Then
again, I also have “ma kuje” to specifically say to shoot with an arrow. So based on that, I would think that “kuje” would be ok by itself to indicate shooting in general in conversation but you can specify if need be.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Our term for a war club is “wirujį/wirojį” which looks to be wa- (something) + i- (with) + ru- (by hand) + ujį (hit/strike).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thank you very much for this!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Sky Campbell, B. A.</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Iren Hartmann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 11, 2013 3:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Otoe-Missouria term for "gun"</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi Sky,<br>
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the Hoocąk term <i>wiižuk</i> comes from the word<i> žuuk</i> (or <i>žuužuk</i>), which means "loud whistle". This word is used to describe the kind of sounds male elks make during mating season.
<i>Wiižuk </i>= <i>wa-hi-žuuk </i>= somthing one emits a powerful whistle with.<br>
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What is the word for shoot in IOM? In Hoocąk it’s <i>guuc</i> and a gun may occasionally be referred to as
<i>wiiguc </i>(something one shoots with) as well.<br>
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The Hoocąk word <i>hojį</i> ’hit’ can also be derived in the same way (<i>wiirojį = wa-hi-hojį</i>) to form a noun, but it doesn’t mean ’gun’ but rather ’bat’ as in ’baseball bat’.<br>
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Best,<br>
Iren</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:24:55 -0500<br>
From: <a href="mailto:jgoodtracks@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">jgoodtracks@GMAIL.COM</a><br>
Subject: Re: Otoe-Missouria term for "gun"<br>
To: <a href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" target="_blank">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">I already sent you Hochank term = wiizhúk.</span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"></span></p>
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<p style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<a title="sky@OMTRIBE.ORG" href="mailto:sky@OMTRIBE.ORG" target="_blank">Campbell, Sky</a>
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<p style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Thursday, October 10, 2013
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<p style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Otoe-Missouria term for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I’m trying to figure out the breakdown of the Otoe-Missouria term for “gun” (iyujį). My first instinct was to go with this:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">i- (instrumental prefix and/or “with”) + ujį (hit/strike)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">And in there, the “y” would occur for the sake of euphony thus making “iyujį” (strike/hit with).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Then I saw Dorsey’s entry with his term “i-yu-́ciⁿ” where he says:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">“Were it not for the W. eq., we would be inclined to derive this word from uciⁿ, to hit, with the instrumental prefix, i-, changed making the compound i-uciⁿ, changed for
euphony to iyu-ci; but the W. izhu- shows that the “y” in iyu- is radical.”</span></i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Dorsey covered what my exact thoughts were but said no because of the Hocąnk cognate and that it is “radical.” I haven’t been able to find the Hocąk term anywhere and have
no idea what he meant by “radical.” Anyone have any ideas? I haven’t had any luck with any related cognates that I could find.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Here are some spellings of this term I’ve come across that may help.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">jútschä</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> (Maximilian)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">His forms don’t have the initial “i-“ but just jump right into the “y” sound. He also ends with “ä” (eh/ay sound) but clearly goes with “į” with his term “strike” (uh-tschin).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">E-yock-a</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> (Major Albert Green)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Linguistic precision definitely isn’t Green’s strong point but his “ck” has me curious.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">i-yo-ćeˊ</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> (Ferdinand Vandeveer Hayden (1862)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">uyóci</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> (Wistrand-Robinson, 1972)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Any help would be greatly appreciated.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Sky Campbell, B. A.</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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