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thanks, Bob! Actually, I only have the old print-out version of the Comparative Dictionary that you made for Louanna and me in the early 90's. How would I go about getting the recent real thing? There may be others on the List who also would enjoy the
wealth of data there…
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<div>On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:09 PM, "Rankin, Robert L." <<a href="mailto:rankin@KU.EDU">rankin@KU.EDU</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Yes,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><em>waxobriN</em><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is a derived form shared with Mandan and some other languages. The root is *<em>xo:pe</em><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'sacred'.
*<em>Waxope</em><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'something sacred' plus<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><em>*riN<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></em>'be of class membership'. </div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Most Siouanists received a copy of the Comparative Siouan Dictionary. If you have one, you can check all these forms out by looking up the various entries for SACRED. There are several terms under this meaning
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Jill is right, These changes in meaning likely relate to the interesting mounds found in formerly Algonquian- and Siouan-speaking regions along the Ohio River. This is probably verified by the fact that there
is an apparent Tutelo 'snake' cognate,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><em>"wageni",<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></em>from the far-eastern end of the area. You can see this in the appropriate cognate set.</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Please feel free to consult the dictionary. Its use is not limited to me, you know. David's NSF and NEH grants, all the collections and editorial work were intended for all of us to use. Enjoy.</div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sky, there is also a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i>waxobriN</i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I believe,
(stress on second syllable) meaning sacred/mysterious/even frightening in connotation, and the name of the famous Mr. FawFaw who had started the 19<sup>th</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>century Dance Society/religion came up in discussions
of the meaning of this word, since he was a rather unique and spiritually powerful person. </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Trying to relate a waxo- to wakhaN seems like a bit of a stretch to me. I would think that there could be many roots that relate to different
senses of being holy or sacred, rather than trying to relate them phonologically. That being said, it does make me wonder if the sound symbolism of stops in words related to color and noise might also apply to the spiritual realm. Has anyone found a parallel
for that semantic domain in any other Siouan languages? </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Think also about concepts like awe and awe-full >awful in English, great snakes do inspire awe (fear, dread, etc) in me, and according to some
recent scientific studies, there may be a genetic component to that fear! Venomous snake bites can still cause permanent nerve damage today, even when people have anti-venom available. </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Relating to what Bob said about the Otoe, Ioway, and Sac & Fox… It’s not so far to the Great Serpent Mound of Adena/Hopewell times in Ohio comes
to mind, as well as rattlesnake iconography in the SE ceremonial artifacts. War bundles might include rattlesnake rattles, too. (Remember the NMAI, Sky?). </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Interesting stuff! </span></div>
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