<div dir="ltr">I agree with Jimm. Even if you dig into the context enough to translate it, the context belongs to a certain segment of English-speaking society during a certain period of time. Contemporary English speakers find Lewis Carroll hard to wrap our brains around, because his vision is not only a fantasy world, but it's based on obsessions and paranoias that are not as prevalent today, or are not imagined in the same way anymore. It's hard to translate stuff like that into any language, let alone a language from people with a very different view of the world. It's a more distinguished request than pet names and such, but it's not the kind of translation work I would prefer to spend my time on. Why don't people ask us to translate Microsoft Word, or a K-12 curriculum, or something important?<div>
<br></div><div>Eyáⁿ níⁿ-a Mark? Éska-naⁿ wathíshkaⁿ-taⁿga thigíni maⁿníⁿ shaⁿsháⁿxti kaⁿbthégaⁿ. Wakáⁿda wíbthahaⁿ maⁿbthíⁿ.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-10 17:28 GMT-07:00 Jimm Goodtracks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jgoodtracks@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgoodtracks@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div><font size="4">Ho, Mark! Pi dana ke shige ho ritawe hanax^un
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<div><font size="4">I find the quote to be rather curious. However, I
haven’t any immediate thoughts that come to me as to how one would render it in
Baxoje – Jiwere. In part, the problem with any effective translation of
this quote, is the lack of context. Just what is becoming evermore
curious? The answer is not yours to give, but it does await clarification
of Mr. William Wolkowki and for what application does he want a translation of
this Alice in Wonderland statement.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Meanwhile, vaya bien en su tratamiento y su cura de su
enfermidad. Híne bróge rígrahiwi ke. Wakánda
nat^úrigradan mína ho.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';COLOR:#0000ff">Jimm G.
Goodtracks<br>Báxoje Jiwére Language Project<br>PO Box 55<br>Tecumseh, KS
66542<br><br><br>Ukínadheda wawáŋarana, ich^é nahá, injé etáwe waróxiñeda
adáñešdan – wógiñi kigróšige íthgare ke.<br>“In the middle of resisting, the
language got caught, only showing her face in ceremony, like she’s ashamed of
her
scars.”<br>(<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FUgDutdauQ&feature=share" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FUgDutdauQ&feature=share</a><br><br></div></font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mawakuni-swetland2@UNL.EDU" href="mailto:mawakuni-swetland2@UNL.EDU" target="_blank">Mark Awakuni-Swetland</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:10 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" href="mailto:SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu" target="_blank">SIOUAN@listserv.unl.edu</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Here is a little curious inquiry for all of us to
ponder</div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR:#c00000">Aloha all, something for the
list to consider. Many thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR:#c00000">Mark
A-S<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Received from william wolkowski <a href="mailto:2009zww@gmail.com" target="_blank">2009zww@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR:#0d0d0d">ALICE
IN OMAHA</span><u></u><u></u></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Colleague,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For the sesquicentennial in 2015<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am preparing a polyglot graphic study<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">of this quote from chapter 2<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">in Carroll's Alice in Wonderland<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Curiouser and curiouser, cried Alice"<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you wish to include it in this study,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">would you please help me<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">with a translation?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wolkowski<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorbonne Universites UPMC<u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>***********************************************************<br>Bryan James Gordon, MA<br>Joint PhD Program in Linguistics and Anthropology<br>University of Arizona<br>
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