Where I've lived... >seldom used by ASL signers, ^^^^^^ When I've seen it used, it stands out. And given that any situation that I'm in might be called a contact situation, my observations are somewhat tainted. >or is it really more of a Signed English sign? Bingo. Hence the 'seldom.' :-) Again, one of those things we could actually quantify if we had a corpus. -Dan.