<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I would agree with both Des and Adam that what you saw was most probably
<BR>Australian Signed English rather than AUSLAN. Like AUSLAN, New Zealand SL
<BR>uses the same DO sign but doesn't have a DID sign. NZSL uses a lexical marker
<BR>to represent tense in the same way as ASL does.
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<BR>The glossed sign in NZSL FINISH is -two fists held up at neutral space, with
<BR>thumbs extended, then twisted at the wrists repeatedly. This has a similar
<BR>role to ASL's FINISH (5-hand).
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<BR>There's also a perfective aspect DONE (first person only) :
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<BR>O-hand is held up at shoulder height, the fingers are flicked outwards as the
<BR>hand is moved back towards the signer's chest the wrist bending until the
<BR>fingertips contact the right side of the chest. Signer usually mouths "finish"
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<BR>or an alternative is:
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<BR>Make the 8 handshape (ASL 8), which is held up in front of the signer, then
<BR>the middle finger and thumb are flicked outwards as the hands moves
<BR>forward/down a little. Signer usually mouths "finish"
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<BR>Are these found in AUSLAN and/or BSL ??
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<BR>Richard Arnold
<BR>former Compilation Editor to NZSL Dictionary
<BR>Austin, Texas
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<BR>In a message dated 2/21/01 5:00:04 AM Central Standard Time,
<BR>Adam.Schembri@BRISTOL.AC.UK writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yes, I would agree with Des. In terms of DO and DID, this signer
<BR>appears to have been using some borrowed vocabulary from Australasian
<BR>Signed English (ASE). The ASE sign for DO is in fact borrowed from the
<BR>ASL fingerspelt D-O, and DID is a similar form with, I think, a
<BR>slightly different handshape and orientation. The ASE sign is, however,
<BR>regularly used by some Auslan signers.
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<BR>As for SEE and SAW, there are signs in ASE for these two, but it is
<BR>possible that the signer in question could have been using an Auslan
<BR>sign SEE + FINISH (which may also mean 'witness' in certain contexts).
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<BR>Generally, like ASL and other signed languages, Auslan verbs are not
<BR>marked for tense. In ASE, irregular past tense forms all have separate
<BR>signs (i.e., the sign for SWIM is produced with a B handshape, but for
<BR>SWAM, the same sign is produced with an S handshape).
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<BR>Adam
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