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<P>hey david!! marsia here. new email address again? </P></DIV>
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<P>thanks so much for your message last night about the cancellation policy. yep, i figured you were probably out of town. </P>
<P>btw, i'm an official terp student now - st. paul tech. and i'm about to send in my MRIDand RIDmembership dues (have been waiting until i get my new address... march 1 moving to st paul), and am wondering what kind of workshops you are teaching in the cities in the near future. </P>
<P>new address will be</P>
<P>marisa bennett, 871 hague #3, st paul, mn 55104</P>
<P>not sure of new nbr yet, but will pass it on soon.</P>
<P>thanks and have a great day,</P>
<P>marisa</P>
<P>>From: "David N. Ascheman-Evans" <DEVANS@INAME.COM></P>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: "For the discussion of linguistics and signed languages." <SLLING-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
<DIV></DIV>>To: SLLING-L@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: ASK vs. ASK-TO
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:21:06 -0600
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I'll respond to this from a more native-like perspective though I'm not a
<DIV></DIV>>linguist (nor do I play one on TV).
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>The ASK-TO sign is used for inquiry purposes. When it appears at the
<DIV></DIV>>beginning of an utterance, it serves to let the listener know a
<DIV></DIV>>question ÿÿ possibly of a personal nature if the right lower-facial signals
<DIV></DIV>>are employed ÿÿ is coming.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>The two-handed ASK/PRAY sign (which I generally gloss as REQUEST or ASK-OF)
<DIV></DIV>>is used as a request or to seek permission.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Ex: The boy asked his mother whether she was going to work tomorrow night.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>BOY PRO.3_rt ASK-TO_lt MOTHER, TOMORROW^NIGHT PRO.2 lt_GO-TO WORK
<DIV></DIV>> shift rt, gaze lt-----------------
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Ex: The boy told his friend to see about borrowing his mother's car tomorrow
<DIV></DIV>>night.
<DIV></DIV>> _________________________________q_
<DIV></DIV>>BOY PRO.3_cnt, HEY ASK-OF_lt MOTHER, TOMORROW NIGHT CAN lt_BORROW_rt CAR
<DIV></DIV>> shift cnt, gaze rt-- shift rt, gaze lt------------------
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Hope this is helpful.
<DIV></DIV>>David N. Ascheman-Evans
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<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> >> Is there any difference between ASK and ASK-TO, other than the inflectional
<DIV></DIV>> >> aspect of ASK-TO, which ASK doesn't have?
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > For the benefit of the non-ASL signers on the list: ASK-TO begins with a
<DIV></DIV>> > closed fist in the asker's space, palm toward the askee, index finger
<DIV></DIV>> > extended upward. This is moved toward the askee while bending the top two
<DIV></DIV>> > joints of the index finger, representing a (lenited) question mark going
<DIV></DIV>> > from the asker to the askee.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > I have no native instincts on this -- what with not being a native and all
<DIV></DIV>> > -- but I was always under the impression that ASL/PRAY kept a core meaning
<DIV></DIV>> > of supplication, asking for a boon, etc. ASK-TO seems to have more of a
<DIV></DIV>> > meaning of eliciting information, even if the information requested is
<DIV></DIV>> > whether or not permission would be granted.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Cheers,
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Dan.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > ____________
<DIV></DIV>> > ,,,
<DIV></DIV>> > . . D A N P A R V A Z -- Geek-in-Residence
<DIV></DIV>> > U University of New Mexico Linguistics Dept
<DIV></DIV>> > - dparvaz@{unm.edu,lanl.gov} 505.480.9638
<DIV></DIV>> >
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