Hi Mohammad,<br><br>Where in Jabal Weibdeh is the school (I used to live near Terra Sancta school there), and do they use sign language as well?<br><br>Mabrook on the PhD. <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>-Dan.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 9/26/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">mohammed abushaira</b> <<a href="mailto:m_abushaira@yahoo.com">m_abushaira@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre style="line-height: 14.4pt;"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Hello Bernadet</span></tt></pre><pre style="line-height: 14.4pt;"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I am happy to write to you , I want to Know witch school of deaf you talking about because I worked in Al ammal school for deaf in alquisema (now moved to jabal el wibedah)
<span> </span>and we used sign language</span></tt></pre><pre style="line-height: 14.4pt;"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Thanks </span></tt></pre><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
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07:41:23 -0700<br>From: Valerie Sutton <br>Subject: Re: [SLLING-L] Dissertation Posted, Statistical Studies,<br>Saudi Arabia and Jordan<br>To: "A list for linguists interested in signed languages"<br><br>Message-ID:
<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed<br><br>On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Bernadet Hendriks wrote:<br>> Hi Gerard,<br>> I must admist I didn't read through the entire PhD (certainly not
<br>> because most of it is still in Arabic and it would take me a lot of <br>> time trying to read through it), but I skimmed through the English <br>> translation. However I know from my experience of 6 years in Jordan
<br>> working with the Deaf that these al-Amal schools don't normally use <br>> sign language...so my remark is more than just speculation. Also, <br>> I'm not saying sign writing might not
have been useful (I think it <br>> could be very useful and I tried myself to teach it to a few Deaf <br>> people in Jordan), but I am saying that I doubt these better <br>> results stem from the use of sign writing only. If sign writing was
<br>> used, that means sign language was used, and that in itself may <br>> have caused better results in the students. In the school where I <br>> worked in Jordan bilingual education was introduced as a test and
<br>> this caused significantly better results in the reading skills of <br>> students...without the use of sign writing.<br>> Greetings,<br>> Bernadet<br><br><br>Hello Bernadet and Gerard -<br><br>Your comments are important, Bernadet, because I also wondered about
<br>the level of Sign Language skills of the students to begin with, so <br>this is good that you bring this up. Since you worked in Jordan <br>yourself for 6 years, you are coming from a position of knowledge <br>that most
commentators would not have...and I am happy to know you <br>even tried some SignWriting in Jordan with your Deaf friends <br>there...smile...<br><br>I believe that both control groups were using some kind of signed <br>
language, and the only difference was that one group used SignWriting <br>and the other group did not, however, I will check this with Dr. <br>AbuShaira. It is very possible, that they were all orally trained <br>Deaf students before the test...that is possible...which would mean
<br>they all were new to signing...and that is important information to <br>know, you are right...<br><br>Did you know that Dr. AbuShaira also conducted the same kind of study <br>in 2002 at a school in Saudi Arabia?...The results were highly in
<br>SignWriting's favor and the reaction from the school administrators <br>and teachers is what really amazed me...so positive...This 16-page <br>report on the Study in Saudi Arabia has been translated in its <br>entirety, so no worries
about learning to read Arabic:<br><br>SignWriting Research Study Saudi Arabia 2002, English Translation <br>from Arabic<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0487-AbuShairaSWStudy2002-" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0487-AbuShairaSWStudy2002-</a> <br>English.pdf<br><br>So now the question is...Was the school in Saudi Arabia also oral to <br>begin with? I do not know and I will try to find out...
<br><br>Obviously we need many more research studies, in multiple cultures, <br>and in other circumstances. One or two studies, are not enough, even <br>at best...<br><br>A similar study on SignWriting was done in Nicaragua with the Deaf
<br>students in Bluefields, Nicaragua. Those students were definitely not <br>orally trained... They only knew their unique sign language......That <br>study is on the web, and Dr. AbuShaira points to it in his dissertation:
<br><br>Literacy In Nicaraguan Sign Language<br>Assessing "Written Sign" Recognition Skills<br><br>...Janice Gangel-Vasquez 1997...<br>California State University Dominguez
Hills<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese003.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese003.html</a><br><br><br>Thanks again for your comments...
<br><br>Val ;-)<br><br>Valerie Sutton<br><a href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Sutton@SignWriting.org</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------
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