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Daniela, <br><br>
I would also be interested in a copy of your work. I think I can handle
the German ;-)<br><br>
Best,<br>
Inge Zwitserlood<br><br>
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At 09:04 9-1-2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=2>Hi
Scholastica,<br>
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<font size=2>in my research I found that the so called plain verbs aren´t
really plain. They contain morphemes of person and space, f.e. the DGS
(German Sign Language) verb BEZAHLEN (to pay). But the person/space
morphemes aren´t strong enough to identify exactly personal agreement or
space agreement. In my work I call these verbs weak agreement verbs
(schwach kongruente Verben). I´m sorry, my work is in German and not
English, but if you understand German, contact me and I will send you an
excerpt of the article I wrote with a colleague (D.Happ & M.-O.
Vorköper 2005: Einige Bemerkungen zur syntaktischen und morphologischen
Repräsentation von Numerus in Deutscher Gebärdensprache. In: Leuninger,
Helen & Daniela Happ (Hrsg.): Gebärdensprachen: Struktur, Erwerb,
Verwendung (Linguistische Berichte. Sonderheft 13). Hamburg: Buske, P. 97
ff.)<br>
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<font size=2>To all: sorry for my ill english.<br>
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<font size=2>Best regards,<br>
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<font size=2>Daniela<br>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 8. Januar 2008 17:54<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
I think I need to rephrase my question. Sorry for any misunderstandings
caused. <br>
<br>
I tried to adopt Padden's (1983, 1988) verb classification for my HKSL
data. Yet I want to clarify the notion plain verbs. I wonder if what have
been called plain verbs may not be really "plain" in terms of
morphology (e.g. verb agreement, aspect, etc) when more studies are done
on ASL and other signed languages. <br>
<br>
Did anyone observe that the so-called plain verbs may actually be marked
with morphemes in signed languages?<br>
<br>
Scholastica <br><br>
<b><i>"Mark A. Mandel" <mamandel@ldc.upenn.edu></i></b>
wrote:<br>
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<dd>"Scholastica" (Nini Hoiting?) wrote:<br><br>
<dd>#I am a research student who works on Hong Kong Sign Language. My
focus of <br>
<dd>#study is verbs. I would like to confirm if plain verbs are
generally<br>
<dd>#unmarked for verb agreement and spatial locations.<br><br>
<dd>Dan Slobin answered:<br><br>
<dd>#By defnition, a "plain verb" is one that cannot move in
space, and so it<br>
<dd>#cannot mark agreement and spatial locations in itself. But in many
sign<br>
<dd>#languages (including Sign Language of the Netherlands, Taiwanese
Sign<br>
<dd>#Language, and others), there are "auxiliary" verbs that
accompany a "plain"<br>
<dd>#verb. Such accompanying verbs do move in space to indicate relations
such<br>
<dd>#as source-goal, agent-patient, and so forth.<br><br>
<dd>Denise Wetzler added:<br><br>
<dd>#In American Sign Language, verbs move. The movement itself contains
a great<br>
<dd>#amount of information. If want to show that I will go from my house
to the<br>
<dd>#bank and then to the library, these three locations are first
established in<br>
<dd>#the signing space. How I sign the verb 'go-to' then will show where
I<br>
<dd>#started from; went to; and where I ended up. [...]<br><br>
<br>
<dd>It's essential to know what Scholastica means by "plain
verb". Dan is evidently <br>
<dd>assuming that S. has the same definition for it that he does.
<br><br>
<dd>A sign that does not move in space can nevertheless mark agreement
with a <br>
<dd>spatial location, by its orientation and possibly its location as
well. Example: <br>
<dd>ASL PITY (open-8 handshape, palm toward object, middle finger
repeatedly <br>
<dd>bending).<br><br>
<dd>Clarification of Denise's answer: in ASL, *many* verbs move [in
space], but by <br>
<dd>no means all of them.<br><br>
<dd>-- Mark A. Mandel<br>
<dd>Linguistic Data Consortium, University of Pennsylvania<br><br>
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