Hoi,<br>I blogged a few days ago about SignWriting and the availability of the <a href="http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2008/05/beta-release-of-signwriting-image.html">SignWriting Image Server</a>. What is clear in the text is that they are going to apply for an Internet draft in order to improve the SWIS support. What I understand is that SignWriting is superior in relation to HamNoSys as it allows for the registration of facial expressions.<br>
<br>I would love to see SignWriting to be included in UTF-8. There are two problems; there are 33563 symbols and this requires more then the pages reserved for it. The hope is that with SWIS it may be possible to speed the inclusion dramatically because of the way the technology behind it ... (SVG).<br>
Thanks,<br> Gerard<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Albert Bickford <<a href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org" target="_blank">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2">In theory one should be able to use any appropriate
transcription system in one of ELAN's tiers. That is, once you've selected
a section of video, you can create an annotation for that stretch in a
particular tier, and then put a transcription of the data in that stretch into
the annotation. The catch here is that the transcription must be
representable using a font that ELAN knows how to use. I'm not up on all
the current technical details, but my understand/assumption has been that ELAN
only supports transcription systems that are supported in Unicode (and, last I
checked, there was the additional requirement that the Unicode characters you
needed had to be included in one particular font). Neither SignWriting nor
HamNoSys have been added to Unicode, although there are various people who have
given thought to how this might be done. (In the case of SignWriting, it's
not a trivial question what is the best way to do so.)
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<div><font size="2">Now, if there were some way to attach a graphic image as an
annotation in ELAN, then this would provide a workaround, because the graphic
could contain an image of the SignWriting or HamNoSys transcription. This
would provide a human-readable annotation, although it would not be
searchable. It would also probably be much more cumbersome than just
typing in a transcription.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">If one wants annotations in ELAN that can provide some of the
functions that a transcription would provide, then I think the main options
are:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">-- a system of glosses that identifies the signs, as mentioned
by <font face="Verdana">Louise de Beuzeville in a separate
post</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">- a transcription system that is representable in
Unicode, e.g. StokoeAscii (an adaptation of Stokoe notation that is
representable with ordinary ASCII characters)</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">- a coding system that represents just the
phonetic/phonological/morphological details that you are interested
in</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">Albert Bickford</font></div></font><div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 02, 2008 5:46 AM</div>
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<div><br></div> Is this where SingWriting / HamNoSys come in by associating it
with a time slot in ELIAN ?<br><br></blockquote></div></div>
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