Yes, most certainly :)<br>Barbara<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Mark A. Mandel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mamandel@ldc.upenn.edu">mamandel@ldc.upenn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">May I have your permission to quote that paragraph, attributed to you, as a citation on the article's Discussion page for deleting that sentence? <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">-- Mark</span>
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<br><div><div>On 12.01.31, at 2:30 PM, Barbara Gerner De Garcia wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><i>American Sign Language is the most used minority language yet almost the
only minority language which lacks official government
recognition.[citation needed]<br></i><br>I just taught a course on language rights Fall semester and this statement is totally inaccurate. First of all, ASL is<i> <u>not</u></i> the most used "minority" language. According to the US Census publication <i>Language Use in the US 2007</i> (Shin & Kominsky, 2010), over 34 million residents age 5 and over speak Spanish at home. When we cite statistics for ASL "users" we tend to include hearing people who have learned ASL (high school and college students). If we add those groups to the number of people in the US who "use" Spanish, you can see that the number easily would exceed the number of those who "use" ASL. Second, the phrase "official government recognition" is vague. In the U.S., there is no official language, period. We do have protections in the U.S. against discrimination based on the language a person uses, but there are no "affirmative" or "positive" language rights that guarantee a person the right to use their language. The WFD has linguistic human rights for sign language users at the core of its positions, and the UNCRPD - UN Convention of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities also expresses sign language rights as the core issue for people who are Deaf and Deaf education.<br>
<br>Barbara Gerner de Garcia<br>p.s. Although I am guilty of often using Wikipedia, this statement helps illuminate why my university suggests that faculty include a statement on their syllabi that the use of Wikipedia is prohibited for student work (BTW, I do not have such a statement on any of my syllabi).<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Mark A.Mandel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mamandel@ldc.upenn.edu" target="_blank">mamandel@ldc.upenn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>The Wikipedia article "Minority languages" includes the paragraph (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_language#Controversy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_language#Controversy</a>) </div>
<div><br></div><div>---</div><div><div>Signed languages are often not recognized as true natural languages even though they are supported by extensive research. In the United States, for example, American Sign Language is the most used minority language yet almost the only minority language which lacks official government recognition.[citation needed]</div>
</div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>How accurate are these statements? Can the paragraph and the article be improved with reliable and recent data?</div><span><font color="#888888"><br><div>
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<span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">--<br>Mark A. Mandel<br>
Linguistic Data Consortium<br>University of Pennsylvania<br><br><br></div></span></div></span></span>
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<br></font></span></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Dr. Barbara Gerner de Garcia, Professor and Chair<br>Department of Educational Foundations and Research<br>Gallaudet University<br>800 Florida Ave NE<br>
Washington, DC 20002-3695<br><br>Phone: <a href="tel:202-651-5207" value="+12026515207" target="_blank">202-651-5207</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Dr. Barbara Gerner de Garcia, Professor and Chair<br>Department of Educational Foundations and Research<br>Gallaudet University<br>
800 Florida Ave NE<br>Washington, DC 20002-3695<br><br>Phone: 202-651-5207<br>