<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Hello,<div><br></div><div>I would love a copy of your article. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Emily Shaw</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></div><br><br><br>Myriam Vermeerbergen <mvermeer@MAC.COM> wrote:<br><br><br>Dear colleagues,<div><br></div><div>I agree with Adam's last point.</div><div><br></div><div>Some years ago, my colleague Eline Demey and myself published a paper on the comparison of simultaneous constructions in signed languages to instances of speech + co-speech gesture. The paper also includes an introduction to gesture and different types of gesture. </div><div><br></div><div>The reference is:</div><div>
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<!--StartFragment--><p class="TextBody"><span lang="NL" style="mso-ansi-language:NL">Vermeerbergen, M.
& Demey, E. 2007. </span><span lang="NL" style="mso-ansi-language:NL">Sign + Gesture =
Speech + Gesture? Comparing Aspects of Simultaneity in Flemish Sign Language to
Instances of Concurrent Speech and Gesture. In: </span>Vermeerbergen, M,
Leeson, L., Crasborn, O. (Eds.), Simultaneity in Signed Languages: Form and
Function. <span lang="NL" style="mso-ansi-language:NL">Amsterdam: John Benjamins,
p. 257-282.</span></p><div>Feel free to contact me if you would like me to provide you with a copy.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Myriam</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>dr. Myriam Vermeerbergen</div><div><br></div><div>LESSIUS/ K.ULeuven</div><div>Subfaculty of Language and Communication</div><div>Sint Andriesstraat 2</div><div>2000 ANTWERPEN</div><div>BELGIUM</div><div><a href="mailto:myriam.vermeerbergen@lessius.eu">myriam.vermeerbergen@lessius.eu</a></div>
<!--EndFragment--></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 24 Apr 2012, at 01:14, Adam Schembri wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Many gesture researchers use the term 'emblem' to refer to gestures that<br>are like lexical items in spoken and signed languages: conventionalised<br>gestures that have culturally-specified forms and meanings (the 'ok',<br>'thumbs up' etc). As others on the SLLING list have already mentioned,<br>some of these are widely recognised in different parts of the world, but<br>many identical forms have quite different meanings in different cultures<br>(the 'thumbs up' is used in some European countries to also represent the<br>number one, for example, whereas in Australia I think most non-signers<br>would use the extended index finger). Extending index and middle finger<br>with palm towards the body and moving the hand configuration upwards in<br>Australia and Britain was traditionally an obscene gesture, although I<br>seem to see this less often these days in Australia as the extended middle<br>finger gesture ('flipping the bird') has become more widely used.<br><br>I can't emphasise enough how important it is that sign language<br>researchers acquaint themselves with the gesture literature. I have<br>sometimes seen claims by sign language linguists about how sign languages<br>differ from gesture that really don't sit well with what gesture<br>researchers have shown.<br><br>Adam<br><br>-- <br>Assoc. Prof. Adam Schembri, PhD<br>Director | National Institute for Deaf Studies and Sign Language<br>La Trobe University | Melbourne (Bundoora) | Victoria | 3086 | Australia<br>Tel : +61 3 9479 2887 | Mob: +61 432 840 744<br>|http://www.adamschembri.net/webpage/Welcome.html<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On 24/04/12 0:43 , "Mark A. Mandel" <<a href="mailto:mamandel@LDC.UPENN.EDU">mamandel@LDC.UPENN.EDU</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Adam,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What do you mean by "emblems"? Things like "come here", "stop", "hi", "be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">quiet"? Group membership or other (semi-)secret signs in the non-SL sense<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of "(secret) sign", such as gang or lodge recognition signals?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mark Mandel<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 12.04.20, at 8:52 PM, Adam Schembri wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Don,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What do you mean by 'gestures'? Co-speech gesture? Emblems? Mime?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Adam Schembri<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 21/04/12 1:48 , "Grushkin, Donald A" <<a href="mailto:grushkind@CSUS.EDU">grushkind@CSUS.EDU</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Has there ever been a study investigating whether nonsigners with no<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">exposure to ASL or other signed languages can detect the difference<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">between gestures and natural signed languages such as ASL? I seem to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">think I did come across something like that once, but cannot rememmber<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">where or who, if it's not a figment of my imagination.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--Don Grushkin<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> </body>