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    Thanks, Jason.  That's precisely why it is important that deaf
    people (and others who understand these issues) must speak into the
    UN process about the need to think about language issues when
    considering deafness.  People who are used to thinking about
    disabilities generally, but who don't understand deaf language and
    culture, will almost certainly argue for "inclusion" in ways that
    result in isolation for deaf people.  Anecdotally, for example, I
    know of a case in Papua New Guinea where people were arguing for
    mainstream education on the basis of UN pronouncements about
    disabilities, but a successful counter-argument was made on the
    basis of UN pronouncements about indigenous languages and the right
    to education in a language the child understands.  In other words,
    the people who are thinking about disability need to be made aware
    of the linguistic/cultural perspective on deafness, and to think
    about issues from a deaf perspective.<br>
    <br>
    I submitted a post to the forum this evening, which hopefully will
    be approved by the moderator within 24 hours. That's something, but
    it will be more effective if deaf people speak for themselves. 
    There is already a post (obviously by a hearing person) that
    advocates inclusion of deaf children in the same schools with
    hearing--an alternative perspective needs to be presented.<br>
    <br>
    (In writing these messages, I'm also aware that there may not be
    agreement even within the deaf community about such matters.  Some
    deaf people may favor mainstreaming in education rather than
    separate classrooms where a sign language is used.  Where there is
    disagreement, then that is all the more reason for deaf people to
    speak up and help the world development community to understand the
    complexity of the issues and the diversity of views.)<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Albert Bickford
SIL International
  Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
  Director, SIL-UND

Please use different email addresses for different topics:
  sign languages: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
  SIL-UND: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
  other: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a> 

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      On 2013/03/25 10:47 AM, Jason Hopkins wrote:<br>
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      Last week, while waiting for the bus in Ghana I met a woman who is
      working on a PhD about inclusive theological education Africa. 
      She was excited to talk with someone who understood the needs of
      the "disabled."  I took this as a chance to discuss pitfalls of
      inclusive with sign language users.<br>
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      I gave her an example from a cellphone repair course I attended in
      Kumasi, Ghana the previous day.  All the participants were Deaf,
      but the school was thinking about adding in the physically
      challenged to help save the teacher's time.  I explained even in
      the Deaf only class the teacher didn't understand how Deaf need to
      learn.  At one point in class he projected a list on the wall and
      told them to copy it, then began to teach on a different topic.  I
      was asked to interpret since the professional wasn't there so I
      felt compelled to stop the teacher and explained the students can
      either copy or watch the interpreter, but not both.  Clearly no
      one had advised him in this way before.  Later, he told them to
      watch him disassemble a phone and began to explain what he was
      doing.  Again, I reminded him about watching two things at once. 
      In both cases, the Deaf would have missed something important.  I
      stressed that the nature of sign language and the visual approach
      required by the teachers when teaching the Deaf makes inclusive
      education as currently being presented very difficult, if not
      impossible.<br>
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      I think many, many Deaf in developing countries will be further
      isolated and drop further (if that's possible) behind if the
      current version of inclusive education is mandated.<br>
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      -Jason<br>
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        Dear colleagues:<br>
        <br>
        (Before you get upset about the use of the word "disabled" on
        this email list, please read on!)<br>
        <br>
        I have just become aware that the UN Department of Economic and
        Social Affairs (UNDESA) and UNICEF are beginning preparations
        for a high-level meeting on disability and development this
        September.  They have organized an online forum for preliminary
        discussion of the matter.  So far, the special perspective of
        deaf people and sign language linguists has not been
        represented.  As a result, there is a distinct possibility that
        approaches and strategies proposed for persons with disabilities
        generally may be misapplied to deaf people, ignoring the crucial
        role that sign language plays in the lives of deaf people and
        deaf communities.  <br>
        <br>
        I believe that people on this forum may want to express their
        views in the online consultation that is currently taking
        place.  See the email quoted below for details on how to
        participate.<br>
        <br>
        Please note that discussion closes in just a couple days, so if
        you want to say something, act now.<br>
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Albert Bickford
SIL International
  Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
  Director, SIL-UND

Please use different email addresses for different topics:
  sign languages: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
  SIL-UND: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
  other: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a> 

late May through early August: 
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mid-August through mid-May: 
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                  the realization of the Millennium Development Goals
                  (MDGs) has not been achieved for persons with
                  disabilities. This clearly highlights the importance
                  of ensuring that development processes are inclusive
                  of persons with disabilities and their perspectives
                  for the still ongoing efforts to accelerate and expand
                  progress on the MDGs and in the definition of the new
                  development framework that will succeed the MDGs,
                  after 2015. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  the UN General Assembly will hold a High-level Meeting
                  on disability and development, with the overarching
                  theme<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><em><span
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                      a disability-inclusive development agenda towards
                      2015 and beyond”</span></em>, at UN Headquarters
                  in New York.   </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  post-2015 agenda is inclusive of disability, the UN
                  Department of Economic and Social Affairs in
                  collaboration with UNICEF is holding an online
                  moderated consultation to gather views from a broad
                  range of stakeholders on how to include disability in
                  the post-2015 development framework, in order to
                  contribute to the ongoing work for the High-level
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                  and Persons with Disabilities in the Post-2015
                  development agenda”, held on this site in November
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                  particular challenges faced by per! sons with
                  disabilities in different regions, and identify the
                  specific measures and actions to be taken by different
                  stakeholders to promote a disability-inclusive society
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                  MS","sans-serif"">Please invite your
                  colleagues, partners and networks to participate!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet
                    MS","sans-serif"">United Nations
                    Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) and
                    UNICEF in collaboration with the United Nations
                    Promoting the Rights of Persons with Disabilities
                    (UNPRPD)</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="color:purple">enable@worldwewant2015.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="color:purple">http://www.worldwewant2015.org/enable</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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