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In my post, I pointed out that the UN should consult with the WFD
for their perspective. I'm glad others have forwarded the messages
on to them.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Albert Bickford
SIL International
Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
Director, SIL-UND
Please use different email addresses for different topics:
sign languages: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
SIL-UND: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
other: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>
late May through early August:
2901 University Ave Stop 8217, Grand Forks ND 58202; 701-777-0575
mid-August through mid-May:
16131 N. Vernon Dr., Tucson AZ 85739; 520-825-1229
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On 2013/03/25 8:50 PM, Adam Schembri wrote:<br>
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<div>Have you forwarded this to WFD, Albert? <br>
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On 26/03/2013, at 2:47 PM, "Albert Bickford" <<a
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<div>Thanks, Jason. That's precisely why it is important that
deaf people (and others who understand these issues) must
speak into the UN process about the need to think about
language issues when considering deafness. People who are
used to thinking about disabilities generally, but who don't
understand deaf language and culture, will almost certainly
argue for "inclusion" in ways that result in isolation for
deaf people. Anecdotally, for example, I know of a case in
Papua New Guinea where people were arguing for mainstream
education on the basis of UN pronouncements about
disabilities, but a successful counter-argument was made on
the basis of UN pronouncements about indigenous languages and
the right to education in a language the child understands.
In other words, the people who are thinking about disability
need to be made aware of the linguistic/cultural perspective
on deafness, and to think about issues from a deaf
perspective.<br>
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I submitted a post to the forum this evening, which hopefully
will be approved by the moderator within 24 hours. That's
something, but it will be more effective if deaf people speak
for themselves. There is already a post (obviously by a
hearing person) that advocates inclusion of deaf children in
the same schools with hearing--an alternative perspective
needs to be presented.<br>
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(In writing these messages, I'm also aware that there may not
be agreement even within the deaf community about such
matters. Some deaf people may favor mainstreaming in
education rather than separate classrooms where a sign
language is used. Where there is disagreement, then that is
all the more reason for deaf people to speak up and help the
world development community to understand the complexity of
the issues and the diversity of views.)<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Albert Bickford
SIL International
Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
Director, SIL-UND
Please use different email addresses for different topics:
sign languages: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
SIL-UND: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
other: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>
late May through early August:
2901 University Ave Stop 8217, Grand Forks ND 58202; 701-777-0575
mid-August through mid-May:
16131 N. Vernon Dr., Tucson AZ 85739; 520-825-1229
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On 2013/03/25 10:47 AM, Jason Hopkins wrote:<br>
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Last week, while waiting for the bus in Ghana I met a woman
who is working on a PhD about inclusive theological
education Africa. She was excited to talk with someone who
understood the needs of the "disabled." I took this as a
chance to discuss pitfalls of inclusive with sign language
users.<br>
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I gave her an example from a cellphone repair course I
attended in Kumasi, Ghana the previous day. All the
participants were Deaf, but the school was thinking about
adding in the physically challenged to help save the
teacher's time. I explained even in the Deaf only class the
teacher didn't understand how Deaf need to learn. At one
point in class he projected a list on the wall and told them
to copy it, then began to teach on a different topic. I was
asked to interpret since the professional wasn't there so I
felt compelled to stop the teacher and explained the
students can either copy or watch the interpreter, but not
both. Clearly no one had advised him in this way before.
Later, he told them to watch him disassemble a phone and
began to explain what he was doing. Again, I reminded him
about watching two things at once. In both cases, the Deaf
would have missed something important. I stressed that the
nature of sign language and the visual approach required by
the teachers when teaching the Deaf makes inclusive
education as currently being presented very difficult, if
not impossible.<br>
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I think many, many Deaf in developing countries will be
further isolated and drop further (if that's possible)
behind if the current version of inclusive education is
mandated.<br>
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-Jason<br>
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Dear colleagues:<br>
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(Before you get upset about the use of the word "disabled"
on this email list, please read on!)<br>
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I have just become aware that the UN Department of
Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA) and UNICEF are
beginning preparations for a high-level meeting on
disability and development this September. They have
organized an online forum for preliminary discussion of
the matter. So far, the special perspective of deaf
people and sign language linguists has not been
represented. As a result, there is a distinct possibility
that approaches and strategies proposed for persons with
disabilities generally may be misapplied to deaf people,
ignoring the crucial role that sign language plays in the
lives of deaf people and deaf communities.
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I believe that people on this forum may want to express
their views in the online consultation that is currently
taking place. See the email quoted below for details on
how to participate.<br>
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Please note that discussion closes in just a couple days,
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Albert Bickford
SIL International
Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
Director, SIL-UND
Please use different email addresses for different topics:
sign languages: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
SIL-UND: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
other: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>
late May through early August:
2901 University Ave Stop 8217, Grand Forks ND 58202; 701-777-0575
mid-August through mid-May:
16131 N. Vernon Dr., Tucson AZ 85739; 520-825-1229
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