<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To your comments I would only add a precision Albert:<div><br></div><div>As a linguistic minority signing deaf have always been systematically excluded.</div><div><br></div><div>Participating in a consultation already targeted at “The way forward: a disability-inclusive development agenda towards 2015 and beyond” is probably useless. Rhetorically speaking, the following topic would be senseless:</div><div><br></div><div>“The way forward: a linguistic minority-inclusive development agenda towards 2015 and beyond”</div><div><br></div><div>In order for the latter "way forward" to be coherent, the notion of "inclusive" would have to be turned upside down, and that is something that the policy makers at the UN do not intend to do.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the deaf community and signing deaf organizations badly need an agenda of their own.</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; ">Dr. Boris Fridman Mintz<br>Escuela Nacional de Antropología e Historia<br><a href="mailto:chido@mac.com">chido@mac.com</a><br>Skype<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>boris.fm<br>Cel.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>+521 (55) 1878-3771<br><br><br><br></span></div><div><div>On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Albert Bickford <<a href="mailto:albert_bickford@SIL.ORG">albert_bickford@SIL.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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There's an ambiguity in the word "development" that may be confusing
the discussion a bit. There is the sense that focuses on language
acquisition in children, and the sense of "community development" in
societies where there are needs in the areas of poverty, health,
education, gender equality, social welfare, etc. I think the UN
consultation is focusing on the second sense, although of course the
first sense is part of that as it pertains to education. As Franz
says, it is not very clear when you go to the site what the goal is,
unless one has been part of the global development community.<br>
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As I understand it, the particular focus of the UN consultation is
that in light of the UN's "Millenium Development Goals"
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/">http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/</a>), people with disabilities have
often been ignored. I would point out that people in minority
language communities have also often been ignored--people have tried
to conduct development activities while relying on national
languages rather than local languages. Signing deaf people get
doubly-ignored.<br>
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I'm pleased to see that people are preparing to make contributions.
As of this moment, I haven't seen any appear on the site, but
probably its just that the moderator hasn't gotten to them yet (it's
only been about 18 hours since I submitted mine).<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Albert Bickford
SIL International
Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
Director, SIL-UND
Please use different email addresses for different topics:
sign languages: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
SIL-UND: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
other: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>
late May through early August:
2901 University Ave Stop 8217, Grand Forks ND 58202; 701-777-0575
mid-August through mid-May:
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On 2013/03/26 12:18 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Franz.Dotter@UNI-KLU.AC.AT">Franz.Dotter@UNI-KLU.AC.AT</a> wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Albert,</div>
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<div>Maybe I'm to silly, but after having created my account, I
could not find an overview concerning the consultation, just
found one question and then two others elsewhere. Can anyone
help?</div>
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<div>Related to the consultation: To put one very important point,
namely language development: doctors, speech therapists etc.
signal a potential big problem if a hearing child does not reach
the 50 words limit with 2 years of age and demand urgent action
not to create language and cognition delays or deficits. For
deaf children there is no such effort. On the contrary: Many
"experts" tell the parents: "Just wait, language will emerge
some time later". We have to overcome this split thinking: Also
deaf children have the right to develop their language in the
same life period as hearing children do. As long as we do not
reach this goal of "language development for deaf children in
the sensible phases", there will be massive developmental
delays.</div>
<div>To put another analogy which is not taken up to now: All
linguists stress the importance of allowing/assisting migrant
children in using and developing also their mother/family
language for their future identity and language competences. But
this is not taken earnest for deaf children: They are kept away
from sign language which they could (not must!) choose as their
mother or preferred language. So they are also broken in
identity as they are only forced to accept that they will
be less good spoken language users for their whole life.</div>
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<div>Best Regards</div>
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<div>Franz Dotter</div>
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<div>Center for Sign Language and Deaf Communication, University
of Klagenfurt<br>
Additionally funded by: Provincial government of Carinthia<br>
Head: Franz Dotter (hearing)<br>
Collaborators: Elisabeth Bergmeister (deaf), Silke Bornholdt
(deaf), Luzia Gansinger (hearing), Simone Greiner-Ogris
(hearing) Andrea Grilz (hearing, on maternity leave), Christian
Hausch (deaf), Marlene Hilzensauer (hearing), Klaudia Krammer
(hearing), Christine Kulterer (hearing), Andrea Lackner
(hearing), Anita Pirker (deaf), Nathalie Slavicek (hard of
hearing), Natalie Unterberger (deaf)<br>
Administration: Friederike Wieser (hearing)<br>
Homepage: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/zgh">http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/zgh</a><br>
Deaf server (in German): <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://deaf.uni-klu.ac.at/">http://deaf.uni-klu.ac.at</a><br>
Fax: ++43 (0)463 2700 992891 (Elisabeth Bergmeister), /992892
(Silke Bornholdt), /992893 (Christian Hausch), /992894 (Anita
Pirker), /992895 (Nathalie Slavicek), /992896 (Natalie
Unterberger), /992802 (Friederike Wieser)<br>
Phone: ++43 (0)463 2700 /2821 (Franz Dotter),/2823 (Marlene
Hilzensauer), /2824 (Klaudia Krammer), /2829 (Christine
Kulterer), /2802 (Friederike Wieser)<br>
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>>> "Albert Bickford" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:albert_bickford@SIL.ORG"><albert_bickford@SIL.ORG></a>
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Dear colleagues:<br>
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(Before you get upset about the use of the word "disabled" on
this email list, please read on!)<br>
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I have just become aware that the UN Department of Economic and
Social Affairs (UNDESA) and UNICEF are beginning preparations
for a high-level meeting on disability and development this
September. They have organized an online forum for preliminary
discussion of the matter. So far, the special perspective of
deaf people and sign language linguists has not been
represented. As a result, there is a distinct possibility that
approaches and strategies proposed for persons with disabilities
generally may be misapplied to deaf people, ignoring the crucial
role that sign language plays in the lives of deaf people and
deaf communities. <br>
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I believe that people on this forum may want to express their
views in the online consultation that is currently taking
place. See the email quoted below for details on how to
participate.<br>
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Please note that discussion closes in just a couple days, so if
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Albert Bickford
SIL International
Linguistic Services Coordinator, Global Sign Languages Team
Director, SIL-UND
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sign languages: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org">linguistic_services_gslt@sil.org</a>
SIL-UND: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:director_silund@sil.org">director_silund@sil.org</a>
other: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert_bickford@sil.org">albert_bickford@sil.org</a>
late May through early August:
2901 University Ave Stop 8217, Grand Forks ND 58202; 701-777-0575
mid-August through mid-May:
16131 N. Vernon Dr., Tucson AZ 85739; 520-825-1229
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(MDGs) has not been achieved for persons with
disabilities. This clearly highlights the importance of
ensuring that development processes are inclusive of
persons with disabilities and their perspectives for the
still ongoing efforts to accelerate and expand progress
on the MDGs and in the definition of the new development
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way forward: a disability-inclusive development
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collaboration with UNICEF is holding an online moderated
consultation to gather views from a broad range of
stakeholders on how to include disability in the
post-2015 development framework, in order to contribute
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particular challenges faced by per! sons with
disabilities in different regions, and identify the
specific measures and actions to be taken by different
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